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AAPT pulls out of Terria

By AAP
16 October 2008 07:00 AM
Tags: aapt, national broadband network, paul broad, telecom nz, telstra, terria

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Talkback 17 comments

    Serious decisions. Sydney Lawrence -- 16/10/08

    Time for all to get serious, admit the impossibility of the Terria bid and to rally behind Telstra to ensure that the NBN network becomes a reality.

    With the world markets in financial turmoil it is not certain that Telstra will proceed with the NBN roll-out without assurances from Government of stable regulation.

    Impossibility Simon -- 16/10/08 (in reply to #320114278)

    Not sure what you mean by this Sydney, Terria will have no difficulty securing capitol for the NBN rollout. Cost of capitol for the NBN winner may move by a few bassis points but nothing dire. In the markets (financial) I work in, there is little distinction between any of the players.

    Your second comment is perhaps the most important issue, ensuring that whoever wins the contract is an impartial wholesaler without any retail capability. It is imperative that Australia finally has an open, transparent and impartial administrator of the national broadband infrastructure.

    Impartial = Best for Australia Anonymous -- 16/10/08 (in reply to #320114292)

    The contract must go to an impartial wholesaler with no retail arm. For the NBN to benefit all Australian consumers there can be no other alternative.

    No player in the game has Australian consumers best interests at heart (businesses are there to make money), but an impartial wholesaler will ensure a level playing field so we the consumers get the best deal overall.

    Don't let Telstra take us back up the monopoly creek again. Australians have had enough of brown stains on our paddles.

    So don't give to someone with a retail arm Anonymous -- 16/10/08 (in reply to #320114301)

    give it to a company that is run by 6 retail arms.

    NBN and Telstra Anonymous -- 17/10/08 (in reply to #320114301)

    Go back to "whingepool" with all the other whingers...you will be happy there in the cesspool with all those who love to bag an Aussie icon!!

    You losers there need to get over the "tall poppy" syndrome & should support what is best for the country (Telstra) instead of your own narrow little interests!!

    ABC Sydney Lawrence -- 16/10/08 (in reply to #320114292)

    Simon your services are desperately needed in Washington if you are so expert in the provision of CAPITAL.

    I think you may have spent too much time in Washington in the CAPITOL.

    I have a friend who works in the financial industry Anonymous -- 16/10/08 (in reply to #320114322)

    You should see him, he walks around talking the talk, he knows all of the companies and their share prices and what is happening in the entire industry.

    In reality he is a failed uni student, works as a teller, earns under $50,000 spends all his time and money on an image just because he is embarrassed to tell people what he does.

    So Simon ... which branch do you work at?

    image problem Simon -- 17/10/08 (in reply to #320114331)

    Risk management on Basel2 compliance.. its exciting times!
    (hopefully no more spelling mistakes)

    XYZ Sandgroper -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114322)

    Says he who has gravel rash on his knees from genuflecting to the AMERICAN Sol Trujillo and the half-dozen or so AMERICAN Amigos that haven't walked out on him yet.

    Let's not forget Telstra's use of AMERICAN companies to assist with marketing, strategic planning and rollout of services.

    Then there is how Telstra's datacentres in Sydney (no relation) and Melbourne are managed - both have insecure, unmaintained and unreliable IRC servers connected which host fewer than 250 people, supposedly voluntarily administered by some fat scrag from Queensland whose claim to fame is collecting teddy bears (according to her website).

    In fact, Telstra's web team are so ashamed if the existance of this network they haven't linked to it for at least three years - this after many years of it being linked directly from the front pages of telstra.com and bigpond.com.

    If Telstra can't present a united front with one small but costly and under-utilised service they offer then how the hell could they consider themselves equipped with the experience to roll out a national fibre broadband network?

    Lord Watchdog has a new name Erik -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114407)

    Welcome back, we were starting to think you gave up the fight, or even better, DIED!

    When the chips are down pull out the lame and meaningless American line. I suppose I could stoop that low and pull out the leading stakeholder in Terria is a 100% owned subsidiary of Singapore Telecom which is owned by the Singapore government but I won't ridicule the intelligence of the readers.

    As for maintaining a service that loses money, that is as good as dead and that will be switched off in the coming couple of years why would they even want to provide more funding and resources then what they provide today? This has nothing to do with building for the future, only with clinging onto the feeble and irrelevant past.

    Oh please... Mel Sommersberg -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114418)

    "but I won't ridicule the intelligence of the readers."

    You did that by commenting in the first place. I'll add that Singapore Telecom is listed on the Australian Securities Exchange (code: SGT) so Terria is 1/9th owned by a company that is 100% owned by a foreign company with a local shareholding. When you do the sums it means that Terria is less than 1/9th owned by the Singapore Government, or 1/8th if you count the departure of AAPT.

    Welcome to the facts of life Erik.

    You are right Mel Anonymous -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114422)

    The other $7 invested in Terria is by the other companies.

    Hope the one staff member doesn't go for a coffee and muffin, he could wipe out the value of the company.

    9, 8, 7 Rex -- 16/10/08

    Rats, Ships, Sinking.

    Does anyone remember how that old saying goes?

    Do unto others. Sydney Lawrence -- 18/10/08

    Sandgroper you are a sad communicator. Consumed by irrational hatred of an Australian icon and willing to castigate American friends and mentors who work to advantage Australia and Australians.

    As a person who is interested in the workings of strange thought processes I would ask you why you express these extraordinary vile and insulting projections?

    Possibly you are a Telstra opponent in which case I understand your fear and dejection as more and more Australians choose Telstra as their service provider of choice.

    If your poisoness barbs are the result of racism then your problems are even more serious than I first imagined. I can only wish you good luck and hope your affliction soon resolves.

    Pot calling the kettle black Mel Sommersberg -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114409)

    Sydney, that is a bit rich mate. You object to American executives being accountable for their lousy service and large salaries yet you constantly bemoan the presence of a competitor to Telstra with a substantial (but not total) Asian ownership.

    If there is a xenophobe here then you would be one of the prime candidates.

    Difference Anonymous -- 18/10/08 (in reply to #320114423)

    We hire overseas workers all the time, do you complain when you drink wine picked by tourist hands, do you complain that we hire nurses from overseas because we don't have enough here. At least the winery and hostpitals are still owned by Australian meaning other then some post tax salaries that go overseas all (the bulk) of the profit stays within Australia.

    sydney god i hope telstra dont get the NBN -- 20/10/08

    As a person who is interested in the workings of strange thought processes I would ask you why you express this delusional love of telstra? have you ever worked in telstra? behind the facade of the propaganda machine? perhaps, while you comment on how good telstra is, you as an ex-shareholder have only ever had access to the glossy shareholder annual report and the public telstra policies... no offense but from what I've seen so far your knowledge of telstra is lacking to the point i honestly dont believe that your in a posistion to defend them

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