Windows users not tempted by old Apples

Apple Computer is unconcerned that its latest round of price cuts may not lure Windows users across.

A massive worldwide sale of 'end of life' stock has seen the vendor slashing prices on some Mac modules by as much as AU$2400, but a ZDNet reader survey of more than 500 respondents found that most Windows users were still not tempted.

A spokesperson for Apple's local operation shrugged off the sale's lukewarm reception amongst Windows users, explaining that the campaign was aimed at the vendor's existing corporate and consumer-level customers, not new customers.

"They're (price cuts) not targeted at Windows converts. Although, we do get some converts," they said.

The ZDNet survey found that 319 readers - 65 percent of survey respondents - had no intention of making the switch to Mac in light of the price cuts.

Only 18 percent of respondents said they would consider dropping Windows in favour of the Mac price cuts. The remaining 17 percent were already Mac users.

The Apple spokesperson said the worldwide sale, which commenced locally in January, had already seen some product lines "sold through" to resellers.

The manufacturer's warehouses were already emptied of all remaining G4 400 and G4 500 PowerMacs and G3 500 PowerBooks based on the sale. However, some G4 450 PowerMacs and G3 400 PowerBooks still remained on the Apple shelves.

No figures were available, but the Apple spokesperson said no reseller had sold out of any product line yet.

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Talkback 19 comments

    The thing that will win conver ...Tom Barta -- 17/01/01

    The thing that will win converts is the imminent release of OS X. Windows users-- indeed ALL computer users-- are lusting after the power and stability of UNIX. Witness the glamour surrounding LINUX. But I believe only Apple will be able to deliver a truly friendly, well supported UNIX-based OS (like BSD-based OS X) to the public. That is, if Apple markets it well. Insufficient advertising has always been Apple's biggest downfall.

    Let me get this straight... T ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    Let me get this straight...

    The article's point is that Windows users aren't tempted to move to the Mac, yet a percentage higher than the Mac installed base would consider it? Which equals 22 percent of the Windows users polled? It seems to me that the spin on this is a bit skewed. When a fifth of all Windows users are "tempted" by a different platform, that seems like a significant number. If one fifth of my customers were looking at the competition, I wouldn't consider that a small thing.

    Why are you posting articles l ...Eric Aitala -- 17/01/01

    Why are you posting articles like this? Not getting enough page hits these days?

    Guess what, I am not tempted to buy a PC because of all the price cuts there either. Gonna write a story about that? I doubt it.

    Frankly, you could give PCs away and I will stick with my trusty Mac.

    Why would price cuts make peop ...Jayson Lee -- 17/01/01

    Why would price cuts make people switch platforms? Heck, if that's true, then we'd all be Linux users.

    Byron K is a moron ! Look at ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    Byron K is a moron ! Look at your own numbers... the 18% PC users who'd consider a Mac is > than the 17% Mac users and is 22% of the total PC users.
    To me that's pretty impressive !!!
    Where did you get your statistical/ journalism skills... Sears ??

    David (OFI)

    That's amazing! If only half ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    That's amazing! If only half of 18 percent of Windows users switched that would be indredable! Like Steve said last year, with the Mac holding 7 percent of the PC market you only have to gain 7 percent to double the size of the company!

    Same Math from Florida - if 18 ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    Same Math from Florida - if 18% of non-Mac users said that they were thinking about switching to Mac and 17% are already Mac users that's a doubling of the Marketshare. This is purely negative spin. Either: 1) ZDNet has an obvious bias against Apple (true) or 2) this is just a hyped up headline to get more page hits (true).

    John Galvaston come over to th ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    John Galvaston come over to the Forum @ MacCentral.com, we could use your insight and humor!!!

    I think you nailed the situation !! :-)

    yep that was definitely "butterfly" data !!!

    I know of a few Windows users, ...Nathaniel Eaton -- 17/01/01

    I know of a few Windows users, one who worked for Intel (!), that have recently bought Macs for Web design. They have invariably said the Mac is better for graphics and Web development. They like them very much.

    Is anybody tempted by OLD Apples? More so than they'd be tempted by OLD Wintel machines, I think. Basically, people mostly buy the latest hardware with hopes that the software that runs on it will have a longer shelf-life and upgrade path.

    But ... anybody who's thought of buying a new iMac for their Mom for email purposes: Now's the time!

    Here I was expecting some sort ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    Here I was expecting some sort of story about how Windows users aren't interested in "old Apple," which I thought would be about "Classic Apple" machines of the late 80's vintage. I should've known it's be another "Owned by Intel" inspired article. Why isn't there such a banner on this site? CNBC is great about mentioning its parent company any time they report on something which might be otherwise mistaken as biased. Then again, they aren't trying to be biased, or sneaky. Guess I'm asking a bit much from ZDNet.

    Most everyday Macintosh users ...John Boyce -- 17/01/01

    Most everyday Macintosh users (that I know, anyway) have used PC's at one time or another. Most everyday PC users have not used a Macintosh. There's no "reason" for them to switch, in their collective borg minds. If I grew up eating White Castle hamburgers, why would I care if Omaha Steaks was having a sale? However, once I experienced the difference, I'd flush the gut bombs for ever!

    Apple users not tempted by old ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    Apple users not tempted by old Windows machines!

    Where's that headline, Mr Kaye?

    I'm simply stunned by this article. A survey suggests that Apple's recent price cuts have 18% of Windows-using respondents considering a switch to the Mac -- potentially _doubling_ the Mac user base, as measured by that same survey!!

    Other than "Yahweh to Host Thousand-Year Reign of Peace; Mac OS X Annointed Official Platform", I can't imagine a more positive piece of news for Apple!

    Yet Mr Kaye takes this anti-Windows wallop and calls it an Apple-in-trouble story!

    What the heck is ZDNet anyway? Does the company use editors? Why would they let such clods write "news" stories?

    "Headline Writers Not Int ...dave lemonds -- 17/01/01

    "Headline Writers Not Interested In Data"

    Continuing a long tradition of generating misleading yet strangely interesting headlines that have nothing to do with the underlying story, ZD Net today announced that despite data to the contrary, present users of Windows have no interest in "old" computers from Apple. As certitude, exaggeration, and an outright oblivious disregard of anything remotely factual are the key skills required of headline writers worldwide, this recent display of the headlining craft has received praise from headline writers' guilds and unions in all developed countries and quite a few underdeveloped countries as well. On the heels of this success, ZD Net has decided to conceal the names of the actual headline writers for fear that other major "news" organizations will "poach" them away with offers of thousands of once-valuable dotcom IPO stock options. Stay tuned. In other news... "Poor Journalistic Skills No Impediment To Corporate Ladder Climbing at ZD Net"... "Mac Users "Stupid" Claims Well Respected Industry Pundit"...

    I think the previous posts sum ...Anonymous -- 17/01/01

    I think the previous posts sum it all up. I work in the web industry so I know the repercussions of putting up garbage content like that for the WHOLE WORLD TO SEE. You obviously forgot that mac users are passionate and if you choose to twist facts like that then expect a backlash. I just hope this backlash is seen by your superiors/management at ZDNet and will prevent garbage from being written in the future (unless ZDNet management encourages editors to write garbage)

    SEVENTEEN PERCENT (17) of thos ...Anonymous -- 18/01/01

    SEVENTEEN PERCENT (17) of those surveyed were MAC USERS!!!

    Where is THAT headline? I thought you all were always telling us we were 5-10% of all users. Where was the survey conducted? Australia?

    Typical of ZDNET to put a tota ...Anonymous -- 18/01/01

    Typical of ZDNET to put a totally negative spin on the fact that their tiny survey ot 500 people shows that ONE FIFTH of Windows users would consider switching to the Mac.

    It's no wonder most of the Mac users I know don't visit this site, primarily because it's news is written by people who prefer to reinforce their bigotry rather than report objectively.

    As a mac user, even I am not t ...Anonymous -- 18/01/01

    As a mac user, even I am not tempted to upgrade my aging mac.

    Prices are too high, and they must come down by at least $500 on the entry level model before I will consider buying a new mac.

    True, we get quality components, but even so.

    Byron missed the real story. A ...John O'Brien -- 19/01/01

    Byron missed the real story. As others have pointed out, around a quarter of Windows-using respondents said they would consider switching. If that actually happened, Apple's market share would skyrocket overnight.

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