Why AOL is right to block Trillian users

COMMENTARY: Trillian is a program that lets you use one client across multiple instant-messaging services. So why has AOL been blocking access by Trillian's throngs of users? Simple: Because it has every right to.

What a bunch of crybabies! I am talking about the whiners who feel America Online is doing something terrible by locking out the users of Trillian, a multi-service instant-messaging client.

It's not the first time AOL has done this and probably won't be the last. But it's in the right. Trillian's developers should relent, immediately, and stop hacking into the AOL network.

If you're not familiar with Trillian, it's a software program that allows you to access multiple instant-messaging services, including MSN, Yahoo, and AOL. Created by a four-year-old startup called Cerulean Studios, Trillian relieves you of the necessity of opening and operating separate IM clients and maintaining separate "buddy lists" on each one of them.

This is a true inconvenience--tantamount to forcing you to maintain separate e-mail programs just to send a message to someone who happens to eschew your particular preference for another.

Trillian works by "spoofing" the services into believing their own software is logging in when it's actually Trillian calling.

Because of this, AOL considers Trillian to be an attempt to hack its network. So this week, according to the news reports, AOL took steps to terminate any access by Trillian's million-plus users. For its part, Trillian has responded with changes in its own software that circumvent the block.

During an appearance on my Thursday radio show, Trillian co-developer Scott Werndorfer told me he's had no contact with AOL. Since AOL has not claimed "foul"--directly and officially to him, anyway--Werndorfer refuses to acknowledge there's been one.

If Trillian has had any problems connecting to AOL recently, it's simply because of bugs, Werndorfer said. That's all. And any changes Cerulean has made to the software has been for no other reason but to fix them. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

So I called AOL, where a spokeswoman told me the company considers Trillian to be a security breach. AOL claims it's doing nothing more than protecting its network.

These are the same steps--changing its code in a way to thwart access to impersonating software--that AOL took when Microsoft tried to connect its MSN instant-messaging client to AOL's network several months ago.

The two companies played a cat-and-mouse game with Microsoft, releasing several new versions of its client--each finding a new way to get into AOL Instant Messenger--before Redmond gave up.

AOL said it's concerned that programs such as Trillian and the security gaps they exploit could lead to unwanted instant messages--spam--being sent to AOL members. But there's another issue: money. AOL sells advertising on its instant-messaging client, and Trillian blocks those ads.

For his part, Werndorfer describes himself as half of a two-person company that built Trillian to address problems faced by users who were tired of having to keep multiple IM clients open on their desktops in order to chat with their friends across multiple services.

Trillian is a free program, currently supported by donations, although Werndorfer said a commercial "pro" version might be offered in the future. He does not consider himself and Trillian users to be hackers and thieves, though I have to side with AOL on this one.

Certainly, by now Trillian must understand that AOL doesn't want its network violated. And it should have realised it long ago. Right now, Trillian should stop accessing AOL.

Why? Because it's hacking AOL's network, and AOL doesn't like it. There is also the matter of blocking advertising, which I think is more of a concern than AOL admits.

Does Trillian meet a need? Certainly. I am on three instant-messaging services almost all the time. I'd love to have a single client that would allow me to maintain only a single contact list and enable me to send the same message to people on different services at the same time.

But it's not up to parasites like Trillian to make this possible.

Like everyone I've spoken to, I wish AOL and the other services would allow users of one service to send messages to users of the others. AOL says it supports a common standard, being developed by the Internet Engineering Task Force, which would allow IM servers to talk to one another and move messages from one service to another.

It's true that progress toward such interoperability--if that's really what it is--moves at a pace somewhere between glacial and tectonic. And I can think of business reasons--no one wants to share customers once they've captured them--for services like AOL to shun working relationships with MSN, Yahoo, and others.

But that doesn't take away from the real issue: AOL's control of its own network. At the end of all this, if AOL doesn't want Trillian on its network, then Trillian should take the hint and just go away.

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Talkback 47 comments

    Who is this Coursey idiot and ...Anonymous -- 04/02/02

    Who is this Coursey idiot and why does he get paid to spout this meaningless drivel and pro-AOL propaganda? Does he own any AOL shares, perchance?
    The whole reason programs like Trillian are necessary is precisely BECAUSE the vendors haven't got together on a unified standard. "Oooh, but I'll just wait until the vendors in their infinite wisdom and compassion do develop a unified standard," he tells us. Right.
    If it was up to the vendors, they never would develop one, because the only revenue they can possibly earn from the vast resources they have to put into developing IM services is from selling ads and customer lists. As soon as there's a unified standard, all that money goes out the window.
    And this whole "Trillian is hacking" argument is the most transparent piece of bollocks I've ever heard, and you'd have to be a real idiot (or AOL apologist/shareholder) not to call it for the blatant marketing spin that it clearly is. AOL wants to protect its revenue, plain and simple.
    Of course, AOL has a right to do this. But to call it anything but revenue protection, and to use all this emotive language and accuse them of "hacking" (do you even know what that means?) reveals the heart of a two-bit propagandist.
    Go get a PR job, you're obviously much better suited to that lifestyle.

    Coursey, you are a WEASEL!! P ...Anonymous -- 04/02/02

    Coursey, you are a WEASEL!! Plain & Simple.

    I can't believe someone would pay you to write this garbage. And I do believe you have something to gain from writing such filth...you are somehow affiliated with AOL aren't you?...you little weasel.

    Hey!! Flash news Einstein, without hackers, AOL would still be in its idiocy state for leaving that loophole in its IM software. D'uh!!!

    I am sorry, where does AOL liv ...Anonymous -- 04/02/02

    I am sorry, where does AOL live? In America, yes, well isn't free enterprise suppose to rule?
    Trillian is providing a service, fixing an issue that the IM companies, in their greed, have caused themselves. Interoperability should be inevitable. I would concede that AOL has a justifiable response if the Adds are being stripped, but not for the network security. AOL has never been shy of crying foul when it is blocked.
    But I think the Author of the article has no justification of his views other than sucking up to AOL.

    User Pays works, Ads don't. I' ...Anonymous -- 04/02/02

    User Pays works, Ads don't.

    I've never bought anything from an ad on the internet. End of story. Most ads that I get over ICQ, MSN Messenger and friends are for porn sites, get-rich-quick schemes, or mailing lists for bulk emails. Most banners I've seen on various services have been for things I'd never be able to use, even if I wanted to - like really cheap toner refills in the Los Angeles metropolitan area (I live in Canberra, Australia).

    I wonder how popular services like AIM, MSN Messenger or ICQ would be if the users had to cover the costs by subscription?

    David Coursey seems to be conf ...David Readman -- 05/02/02

    David Coursey seems to be confused.
    In his article he says he'd love to have a single client for all the IMs. Then in the next breath he calls a software company who writes such a thing "parasites". ???
    He claims that doing this is "not up to parasites like Trillian". Why not? Trillian have written a program in response to a market need. Sounds like like sensible business to me.

    If AOL want to block it, well, its AOL's network; they may be within their legal rights. It may come down to an issue between the AOL customers and AOL, with people voting with their feet.

    David Coursey's reaction to Trillian seems to be contradictory and over the top.

    What he fails to recognize, is ...Anonymous -- 12/02/02

    What he fails to recognize, is that trillian does not log onto aim network at random. Trillian acts as an agent on my behalf, using my own personal aim credentials. To communicate with users on other networks, I must have an account on that network. Where is the security breach?

    Traditional correlation: What ...Anonymous -- 15/02/02

    Traditional correlation: What would the reaction be if the US Postal Service blocked FedEX or UPS from sending to your house? What about the phone company? Nobody would allow AT&T to block incoming calls from MCI or Qwest. Why should we allow AOL to block access from other IM services. We pay for access...the IM is a perk of that access. I'm one of millions who left AOL because of their "ownership" philosophy. They don't own the Internet, they don't own their customers, and they don't own as much of the market share as they used to.

    Talk about hacking... how abou ...Anonymous -- 16/02/02

    Talk about hacking... how about the software for ICQ (that AOL owns) that allows people to talk through corperate firewalls???... In violation of most corperate policy.

    I have registered with AOL AIM and am now getting more junk mail than I can handle, how about my privicy?...

    One other thing, it sure seems strange that AOL only decided to start blocking the Trillian folks after a encryption module was added to Trillian... huuuummm what information is AOL mad about losing.

    Get real.......

    I do hope that in the future y ...Ari Asulin -- 18/02/02

    I do hope that in the future you present less biased articles. Regardless of what your opinion maybe, your constant slants and insults towards cerullian studios gives your argument the appearance of one-sidedness, ignorance, and downright spitefulness. Examples of this would be such phrases as ‘parasites like Trillian’ and ‘stop hacking AOL’s network’. You are in the wrong in many of your terms and arguments. You are not addressing the more prominent issues such as AOL violating anti-trust agreements and yes, being downright selfish. I’m not even going to get into your addressing of trillian users as ‘crybabies’.
    I must say over all that I am very disappointed with your article and I hope to see better quality posts in the future.

    original quote : "It's tr ...Anonymous -- 18/02/02

    original quote :

    "It's true that progress toward such interoperability--if that's really what it is--moves at a pace somewhere between glacial and tectonic. And I can think of business reasons--no one wants to share customers once they've captured them--for services like AOL to shun working relationships with MSN, Yahoo, and others."

    Need I remind you that all the IM services, like MSN, Yahoo, and AIM included are all FREE to download and use? So what does it matter if monopolists like AOL lose customers from the FREE AIM to another FREE service like Yahoo, MSN, or TRILLIAN, and vice versa?

    My second point, the screen name I use to log into AIM through Trillian was registered on the AIM website when I originally signed up for the FREE AIM client 2 years ago. I wouldn't really mind using the AIM client, but with the last version update, I found that it now uses up more resources on my system to run. And 9 times out of 10, the client freezes, or worse yet, freezes up my computer, forcing me to reboot! To me, the client is not worth the trouble. And on top of it all, there are virtually none of the features that Trillian offer.

    I have no plans on ever using the AIM client ever again, even if Trillian is eventually totally locked out forever. In my opinion, its only a matter of time before AOL will find themselves under the same microscope that Microsoft has been under recently. And when that day comes, I'll be sitting here chatting away on Yahoo and MSN using Trillian.

    wow aol just bought someone a ...Anonymous -- 18/02/02

    wow aol just bought someone a new car...who could it be hmmmm? and if trillian is a hack and security risk why doesn't aol name one,oh i forgot the spam that trillian would cause, i guess all those hot teen girls with webacams are really just like me and they aren't spam coming for aol.

    Obviously this guy is taking b ...Anonymous -- 18/02/02

    Obviously this guy is taking back-handers from AOL to write this tripe.
    This is the sort of guy who one day wants the future to be AOL controlled...he`ll call up AOL and request a activation code to turn on his pc and enter into his desktop (after his credit card details have been processed of course),and then be baraged by the cheap and insistant crap ads that AOL thinks is their own gift to the internet.
    He`ll have 4 different IM programs one for AOL Gold members,silver,bronze and Hillbillie AOL.

    Remember that old dream them scientists had many years back...a dream where all the computers in the world were connected ,and being able to read all free content from the world over.
    Just goes to show u how much AOL can turn a dream into a ful blown communistic corporation.

    What the heck? I seriously don ...Anonymous -- 18/02/02

    What the heck? I seriously don't understand this. AOL needs to pull the stick out of its backside. If they didn't want other people connecting to their network, why did they make AOL Instant Messenger available to people besides AOL ISP customers? And if it's not as simple as that, why not TELL US instead of blindly locking us out of your system. Man. Forget it. Why would I ever use AOL services again?

    "After a fair amount of r ...Anonymous -- 18/02/02

    "After a fair amount of research regarding the conditions of AOL's merger with Time Warner and the merger's relationship to AOL's IM platform, the final analysis would state that while AOL is required to make their IM service interoperable with other services, they have no obligation to allow access to their servers by unauthorized clients and thus are justified in their blockage of the Trillian client, as well as MSN, or Yahoo!'s clients (as we witnessed in 2000). This being said, at this point there is nothing stopping AOL from blocking GAIM or any other open-source Linux clients from accessing their network either."

    I've seen messages just like this one popping up accross the web, If this is in fact true, aol/tw is in violation of the merger conditions that were set for them... The go after trillians aim function, but why not icq, they own that too... why not all the programs that actually are HACKS of the aim/icq software. Trillian uses the same protocals as aim and icq to communicate with the oscar (aol chat) network... it is a much better and much more stable program, faster program... not to mention it is not nearly as cluttering as having 2 different chat programs up at once... I could care less for msn or Y! messenger... I don't even know anyone who uses these clients... I use my own irc prog... but trillian has been the perfect aim/icq hybrid... and it is skinable too. Whats not to like about it? That it 'hacks' the network that aol is supposed to be opening up to chat client developers anyway? That it is just plain better and more secure? Or maybe its the fact that its just plain prettier... When it comes down to it, aol is doing it for the moola... the hard ad cash... From my experience, they could care less about their users, goto quit the service and they say "Oh, have a free month to make up your mind." Thing is, it is a trap... I canceled my aol service almost 3 years ago and haven't regreted it since. Thing is, they through a free month at us and assumed we still used the service even though we specifically said "We're done... we no longer wish to subscribe to the service" they continued to charge us the fee for several months afterwards... Ended up telling the credit card to not accept claims from them so they would stop charging us. If worse comes to worse, I'll get all my friends on the icq portion of trillian, and just forget aim, just like the good million plus other trillian users on the web.

    Wow I have never met someone s ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    Wow I have never met someone so narrow minded. First of all Trillian has every right. Part of the reason the AOL-Time warner merger was allowed was because AOL would have to open up its Instant Messaging software, does this seem like its opened up? As far as security concerns thats ridiculous all they are doing is responding to a protocol. Are different webbrowsers considered "hacks against http daemons" ? The AIM security lies in the central server, trillian just connects to the central server the same way the AIM client does.

    that's why some animals kill t ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    that's why some animals kill their youngs

    I think pushy international co ...Dark -- 19/02/02

    I think pushy international corporations should be regulated before they take away the freedom of choice and information the internet has brought to the average person. I pray for the wisdom to tell between real journalism and corporation- sponsored propaganda like this one.

    What else do you think will ma ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    What else do you think will make AOL open up? Without people knocking on their door, getting press, and generally calling attention to the fact that AOL is jealous of Microsoft's now-official monopoly and wants to build one of their own, when is AOL ever going carry out their obligation to open up their IM network? (Or have you forgotten about the AOL Time Warner merger already?) No, lets just leave them alone until they decide to do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

    No-one's breaking the law and no-ones being hurt. Lets just let this one run its course; how can we the public possibly end up worse off than we are now?

    read http://www.fcc.gov/Bureau ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    read http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Public_Notices/2001/fcc01011.txt and such articles!
    As a condition of AOL and Time Warner merging the FCC wanted AOL to move towards interpolatibility of AIM and anyone that wanted to connect to it :)
    David, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT - DONT BE A BORING IDIOT

    What a freaking idion, how do ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    What a freaking idion, how do people like this author get jobs working for hightech publishers like ZDnet .. In my opinion, just for this bunch of bullxxxx a lot of people will stop reading ZDnet and will not take them seriously ever. (Not that too many people ever did before to that matter).

    I have a number of problems wi ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    I have a number of problems with both AOL's actions and the entire tone of this article.

    First of all, there is no "hacking" of AOL involved in my use of Trillian. I am a registered AIM user, who choses to use a better product to do the job at hand.

    If using Trillian is wrong, then could it not be argued (as you did mention email yourself) that my use of Eudora email client is wrong? Perhaps AOL should keep their users from sending me email for daring to use this email client. Only, they would never do that, because it would cut into their revenue; if not for the AOL-originated emails I get, my SPAM would be cut in half, at least.

    There are other issues here, that the author obviously has not even bothered to look into. A short list would be anti-trust practices (locking out a competitor), violation of the FTC's approval of the AOL-Time/Warner merger (allowing for their chat service to be open to other operators), and perhaps even common carrier concerns (as this appears to be what AOL is striving for)

    As a fellow Australian, I have to say that if Mr Coursey is so unfamilar with US laws, perhaps he should stick to the more pedistrian subjects that he will not embarrass himself with. US law is quite complicated, and it is quite obvious that a software writer like Mr Coursey really has no idea of the underlying concerns that surround this subject.

    And, of course, I am trying very hard not to make any glib comments about the irony of someone of Mr Coursey's calibre (a hack) calling someone else a hacker.

    I wanted to say that this is a ...Anonymous -- 19/02/02

    I wanted to say that this is a terribly written article. As I read, I was wondering if the author had gone to school to become a journalist or if he had been dragged in off the street to write this article. The author offers no suppot for his views and attacks Trillian rather than the issue. A ture journalist, hoping to find the truth does not resort to an Ad Hominen arguement. It is my opinion that this sort of biased materail should not be published.

    How can you tell trillian to j ...Fred Brillante -- 19/02/02

    How can you tell trillian to just go away?
    Maybe we should just tell the internet to go away.
    The AIM interface that AOL provides is a protocol.
    The internet was setup on protocols which allow the free transfer of data.
    AOL does not like that they cannot control trillian so therefore it is bad.
    In essence AOL setup a protocol over the internet and now they are blocking users who use that protocol because they are not using their client. So the defining factor of whether we can use their network is that we use their client?
    The client is free…there is not charge so we aren’t stealing from them.
    So what are they so &*% about?

    AOL is upset over the loss of ...Bob -- 20/02/02

    AOL is upset over the loss of revenue.

    Its hard to believe a moron li ...Ian Rowe -- 20/02/02

    Its hard to believe a moron like this isnt writing for a crappy tabloid instead of wasting our time with such dribble.

    None of his or AOL's points have anything to back them up, trillian is more secure than AOL's own client and much easier to use, AOL generates more internal spam than anything else which i doubt they do anything about as they probably make money from it. The ads shown in AOL's client are mainly their own so i dont see how they make money from them and they can be easily disabled with no 'hacking' even needed.

    AOL should be encouraging third party input to the IM network as agreed when they merged with time warner, obviously the auther of this article never bothered to look past what AOL claimed, innocent until someone bigger says so eh? lets hope regulars to this network read the comments as well as the article to get the whole truth.

    First, AOL ABSOLUTELY has the ...worlock -- 20/02/02

    First, AOL ABSOLUTELY has the right to do anything, and everything in its power to block trillian users.. it's a fact, don't bother disputing it.. however, to hide behind the "trillian is HACKING aol's servers" line, is crap.. and not much more than crap.. if I build a website, and put it on my server.. and design the site, and fully intend for it to be accessed only by IE (loose example.. but valid, IMO) and you come and access it with netscape, opera, mozilla, konquerer, or whatever other browser, are you "hacking" my server because you're not using the client software I intended? I doubt it.. second, trillian could be used to spam users! uh oh.. stop them quick, nobody does that with AIM.. puh-lease.. you're talking about a software program that attempts to, as your article even says, duplicate the workings of their client first of all, and second, yes.. it connects to their servers.. which set the rules.. anything that can be done to prevent spam from the AIM client, will work quite effectively against trillian.. just out of curiosity, does this guy also believe microsoft follows a strict code of business ethics? I'm just curious how gullible he actually is..

    What you are saying does not r ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    What you are saying does not really make sense. I use any email client I want to attach to pop3 servers. In addition I can use any mail client I want to send mail via SMTP. This is a standard of the internet. Please explain how sending mail packets via TCP/IP is differnet from sending IM packets via TCP/IP.

    I wonder how much AOL paid Cou ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    I wonder how much AOL paid Coursey to write this garbage? I also wonder how an individual so obviously lacking in intelligence posted this piece of uninformed blather here.

    Coursey, if you are going to write articles that people will read, you may want to do a bit of research first before getting paid under the table by a giant monopoly of a company.

    "Why? Because it's hackin ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    "Why? Because it's hacking AOL's network, and AOL doesn't like it."

    i don't like it when my mom makes me take out the trash. should she stop telling me to? no!

    and another thing. AIM is a free service. AOL doesn't lose money over it, so why do they care. i have AIM, and not trillian, and i don't give a crap. it's not hacking unless editing, adding, or deleting of AOL's programs is occuring against their will.

    "What a bunch of crybabie ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    "What a bunch of crybabies! I am talking about the whiners who feel America Online is doing something terrible by locking out the users of Trillian, a multi-service instant-messaging client.

    Oh well aren't you the hypocritical one then? You call what they're doing whining...well what about all you've just typed? I call that more like whining actually...-.-

    Trillian is just as much a par ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    Trillian is just as much a parasite to the AOL network as it's own client is. It's not like Trillian is using it's immitated client to do anything network wise that the lame AIM client doesn't. AIM is free to be used by anyone with an internet connection, what does it matter what they connect with? I could understand the problem if Trillian were providing a priced service for free but they're providing the same service as AOL's client. I'd also like to add that AOL provides a java based web app for connecting to the AIM network. This application features no advertisements.

    AOL must have threatened CMP P ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    AOL must have threatened CMP Publishing that they would revoke all of those AOL CD advertisements if they didn't write this article.

    Way to go hinder competition and innovation by giving into the monopoly.

    I hope you sleep well at night with that big money sack under your head.

    when I think of David Coursey ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    when I think of David Coursey I think of moron, they are one in the same.

    Well, I certainly see no reaso ...Not with this level of trust, bucko . . . -- 21/02/02

    Well, I certainly see no reason to come back to ZDNet for anything. It isn't as though there aren't other options out there. What a diatribe. I support the free expression of opinion that software companies like Trillian and Odigo support, and that this 'author' seems to find objectionable . . . hence, I'm not going to be needing ZDNet for anything else . . .

    AOL, how'd have them, they are ...Ron -- 26/02/02

    AOL, how'd have them, they are worse then Microsoft, give them a couple of years and they will own the internet. So Trillian blocks their adverts 'Boo Hoo'. Go for it Trillian, keep up the good work. It's about time these big conglomerates were sat on their arse.

    Who really gives a damn what D ...Anonymous -- 27/02/02

    Who really gives a damn what David Coursey has to say. What a crappy article. Ignore this twit called Coursey and keep up the good work Trillian. Love your software.

    The funny thing is that ZDNet ...Anonymous -- 28/02/02

    The funny thing is that ZDNet recommended Trillian in the first place. See http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,546168,00.html
    What do you say to that Dave?

    Isn't this a perfect example ( ...Anonymous -- 04/03/02

    Isn't this a perfect example (among the hundreds of others, not only in the technology industry) of business becoming a hindrance to technological progress? It may seem trivial for such a 'far-flung' claim but it could have widespread consequences.
    Greed will get us nowhere.

    What seems funny to me... IS T ...Anonymous -- 27/08/02

    What seems funny to me...
    IS THAT WHEN I BUY THE SERVICE (AOL) I used to be a member...but it is because of all the built in Ads is why I don't use thier service anymore...currently ...I use DSL...and have a Dial into MSN account...when I travel...So that I don't get the Ads...
    IF YOU THINK ABOUT ...You get enough ads when you goto surf the web...but when you pay for a service you still get the ads...Doesn't that seem funny...I use Trillian Just for the fact that the only ad I get from them is when it starts up...and all it asks for is a donation...

    Here is the problem straightfo ...Anonymous -- 27/08/02

    Here is the problem straightforward. AOL is trying to block trillian. This whole problem could be fixed by doing this. Have AOL work with trillian to make their networks completely compatable so that AOL's advertisment still goes through and so the network is kept safe from hackers.Merging all five of these instant messaging clients would then be a breeze for the benefit of all!

    You an Idiot straight up. I ha ...Seymour Butts -- 07/09/02

    You an Idiot straight up. I hate AIM but I have a lot of friends on it. I cant stand AO Hell and its non-stop adds. Infact everytime I get an add on the internet I remeber to never buy a product from that company for bugging me and everyone should do this. Advertising models dont work on the Internet people see enough of it on tv I dont want it on my computer period thats why I love trillian.

    Next thing you know, they'll b ...Anonymous -- 22/11/02

    Next thing you know, they'll be telling us that you can surf the internet only using Internet Explorer.

    Riiiiiight.

    I think the accusations agains ...Anonymous -- 05/03/03

    I think the accusations against Trillian is nothing but crap. You can't sit there and tell me that you are upset because this great program does everything we want it to. It combines the 4 major chat program clients (plus IRC) and eliminates all the junk including advertisements from the individual client programs. I can only feel a small bit of sympathy for the companies claiming network intrusion by this program. If they didn't want people using their networks then why did they create them... Save your crying for someone who cares because the users don't! If they want to stop intrusions and "breaches" then they will have to shutdown there networks and maybe they should. Let users communicate without the BS of advertisments...its always about the penny for these companies...another reason I hate AOL.

    What a laugh! Ask AOL users ho ...Joe Greene -- 15/05/03

    What a laugh! Ask AOL users how much spam they get already, and then THINK!

    Wondering on which payroll this guy is ...

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