VeriSign to revive redirect service

VeriSign will give a 30- to 60-day notice before resuming a controversial and temporarily suspended feature that redirected many .com and .net domains, company representatives said Wednesday.

Speaking before an unusual gathering of technical experts in Washington, D.C., VeriSign said its own re-evaluation of its Site Finder redirection service found "no identified security or stability problems." When it was active, Site Finder added a "wild card" for .com and .net domains that snared queries to nonexistent Internet sites and forwarded them to VeriSign's own servers.

That confused some antispam filters and other network utilities, a side effect that VeriSign downplayed on Wednesday by arguing that Site Finder's benefits to end users--a search screen instead of a an error message--outweighed the costs to network administrators. "One of the segments of the community that has not been looked at in this whole issue, in my opinion, is the user community," VeriSign Vice President Chuck Gomes said. "They're very relevant."

In a presentation, VeriSign said that 35 companies were confidentially briefed about Site Finder before its debut and they reported "no issues" or problems before its launch on September 15. Its own expert group--including the chief technology officers of Brightmail and Morgan Stanley--reviewed Site Finder and decided that most issues were "minor or inconvenient," VeriSign said. Before resuming Site Finder, VeriSign said it would address specific criticisms by adding foreign language support to Site Finder and tweaking the way e-mail to nonexistent domains worked.

VeriSign's Matt Larson, who spoke at the meeting organized by the Security and Stability Advisory Committee of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), said a poll paid for by his company showed 84 percent of U.S. citizens surveyed had a "preference" in favor of Site Finder. ICANN is the California nonprofit group that has an agreement with the U.S. government to oversee some aspects of Internet addressing and successfully pressured VeriSign to halt Site Finder on October 3.

But Gomes and Larson, under intense questioning from ICANN committee members, refused to release details about the methodology of the survey such as the questions asked and the responses received. "The actual feedback we got directly from doing the survey is proprietary information," Larson said.

Committee Chairman Stephen Crocker, a veteran of many Internet standards groups, suggested those details would be necessary to evaluate the results. "It's not a matter of stacking the deck," he said. "It's what are you measuring."

Crocker's questions, along with queries from Ram Mohan of Afilias, a domain name registrar, prompted an angry reaction from VeriSign representatives.

Gomes said: "I'm utterly clueless about how what we've been talking about for the last few minutes has to do with security and stability"--the ICANN committee's mandate.

Larson suggested that "you guys don't think consumers are relevant" and that committee members were unduly focused on the travails of network operators affected by the Site Finder changes.

"We're going to have to stop this discussion and turn to a different venue," Larson said.

The ICANN committee held an earlier meeting on Site Finder on October 7.

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Talkback 7 comments

    The only thing these guys are ...Anonymous -- 16/10/03

    The only thing these guys are concerned about is making money from advertising revenue... I very much doubt they initiated this farce because of sympathy for the poor web user who can't find the web address they're after.
    Also, what of the millions of emails with mis-typed email addresses, which will find their way to verisign? Surely there are some privacy issues there. Next thing they'll be doing is setting up a mail server to monitor all of the emails transmitted to invalid .com domains and selling the lists to spam companies for profit.
    The entire .com domain space does not belong to this company. They have no right to make money from it.

    What a bunch of crap. Does th ...Michael Loftis -- 16/10/03

    What a bunch of crap. Does the phone company go to the general public and ask them for input on how to improve SS7 (the protocol stack of the Telephone system as IP is to the Internet...sorta...)? NO. They ask ENGINEERS for INFORMED opinions. When was the last time Verizon, Pac Bell, or AT&T called and asked you about changing a field in a LERG entry? Hmmm? Nobody outside of the business knows what LERG is. Likewise DNS is the SAME way.

    Why is it that IP Engineers and Network Engineers are so uniquely unqualified to run their own networks, and Telco Engineers and Telco Networking Engineers are?

    VeriSign has NOT followed ANY established process, has blatantly violated their agreement, and should no longer be allowed to continue doing business in this manner.

    And of course the companies that VeriSign chose to talk to liked the idea. That's why VeriSign would choose to talk to them. Further it's pretty likely that nobody bothered to ask their IT people, they just asked some random VP or CxO!

    This whole business is a sham, VeriSign is just trying to line it's pockets. That's it. Plain and simple, and they want to do it at my, and every other Net Eng and Sys Admins expense. We're the ones that have to fix this and OUR companies have to deal with the extra support load of users getting SiteFinder instead of DNS errors when their site expires. VeriSign doesn't have to rewrite swaths of programs and troubleshooting manuals for diagnosing said problems, we do. So no kidding VeriSign says it's a good idea. And no kidding their bed buddies say it's a good idea.

    "find a different venue&q ...Anonymous -- 17/10/03

    "find a different venue" means "find people who don't ask hard questions."

    Verisign is a slimy organization. The story just adds more proof to the pile that already existed.

    Slimy.

    Ugh.

    Gomes said: "I'm utterly ...Anonymous -- 17/10/03

    Gomes said: "I'm utterly clueless" -- uh, yeah, looks like it.

    I have two questions: 1) How d ...Anonymous -- 17/10/03

    I have two questions:

    1) How do I assure that I do not send any internet traffic to Verisign?

    2) How do I assure that I do not receive any internet
    traffic from Verisign?

    --

    FF

    Put VeriSign.com in your %wind ...Nug -- 17/10/03

    Put VeriSign.com in your %windir$\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file, pointing to 127.0.0.1... It's not too hard. Never visit their site again. Someone should write a friendly virus to do this, like some prick did to google.com

    Verisgn doesn't care about &qu ...Anonymous -- 17/10/03

    Verisgn doesn't care about "trivial network irregularities" such as standards and interoperability, nor my bandwidth costs. It cares about getting more exposure and free marketing for its services, just like any for-profit company. Lets face it: It will use an advantage it has and owning the domain registry of .com and .net is the biggest advantage there is for an company in the Internet era. Now imagine if every time you dialed a wrong telephone number you were redirected to Telstra's call centre...

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