UPDATE: MIPI raids Sharman Networks, Brilliant Digital Entertainment

UPDATE:Music Industry Piracy Investigations this morning raided the offices of P2P companies Sharman Networks and Brilliant Digital Entertainment, along with the homes of key executives and several ISPs.

MIPI obtained an Anton Pillar order - which allows a copyright holder to enter a premises to search for and seize material that breaches copyright without alerting the target beforehand - yesterday from Justice Murray Wilcox, and began raiding premises in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria this morning searching for documents and electronic evidence to support its case against the peer-to-peer companies.

In addition to the offices of Sharman Networks and Brilliant Digital Entertainment (BDE), MIPI raided the residences of Sharman Networks' CEO Nikki Hemming, Brilliant Digital Entertainment Chief Executive Officer and President Kevin Burmeister and Phil Morle, Director of Technology at Sharman Networks. Monash University, the University of Queensland and the University of New South Wales were also raided, as well as four ISPs including Telstra.

"Telstra lawyers are presently working with lawyers from the record labels in order to determine exactly what information is being sought under the terms of the order," Telstra spokesman Warwick Ponder told ZDNet Australia  . "We have not been asked for and will not provide any BigPond subscriber information."

"Telstra has made it very clear for a long time now that it does not support copyright infringement or any other illegal activity," said Ponder. "At the same time Telstra clearly respects its obligation to protect customers information and privacy under the Telecommunication Act and Privacy Act under Federal law."

MIPI general manager Michael Speck told ZDNet Australia   the order was specifically targeted at the operators of the Kazaa network. "This is not about individuals, this is about the big fish," said Speck. "This is a signal that Internet music piracy is finished in Australia." The ISPs and Universities were raided to gain evidence about the operators of the Kazaa network.

The investigation into the Kazaa network has been ongoing for six months, and was precipitated by a significant change in the physical and technical structure of Sharman Networks, according to Speck. "The Kazaa operation infringes copyright within the terms of the Australian Copyright Act," he said.

"This action appears to be an extraordinary waste of time, money and resources going over legal ground that has been well and truly covered in the US and Dutch Courts over the past 18 months," said Sharman Networks in a statement. "This is a knee-jerk reaction by the recording industry to discredit Sharman Networks and the Kazaa software, following a number of recent court decisions around the world that have ruled against the entertainment industry's agenda to stamp out peer-to-peer technology."

Sharman Networks became a target for the music industry when it purchased the Kazaa peer-to-peer file-sharing technology from its Dutch creators Kazaa BV in 2002. It has had a long relationship with BDE, and in 2002 had to defend against a backlash when it was revealed spyware had been included with the Kazaa software. BDE subsidiary Altnet was later formed and offered to pay people for hosting content on the Kazaa network.

"Kazaa operators know the difference and make the decision as to whether they facilitate legitimate or illegitimate downloads," said Speck. "It's very clear they are facilitating and authorising global copyright infringement."

Sharman disagreed, claiming it bought the Kazaa software "with the express purpose of building it into a legitimate channel for the distribution of licensed, copyright protected content which in turn financially benefits artists".

"There is no doubt this is a cynical attempt by the industry to disrupt our business, regain lost momentum, and garner publicity," said Sharman. "The assertions by plaintiffs are hackneyed and worn out. It is a gross misrepresentation of Sharman's business to suggest that the company in any way facilitates or encourages copyright infringement."

Monash University and the University of Queensland have challenged the order, and the arguments will be heard before Justice Wilcox at 3.30 pm today.

Sharman Networks, Australian subsidiary LEF Interactive and BDE will face the record company lawyers before Justice Wilcox on Tuesday.

According to MIPI, there are around three million users simultaneously online and connected to the Kazaa network at any one time sharing around 573 million files. Over 850,000 tracks are made available by over 2,500 Australian users. If each downloaded track was purchased for US$0.99 the total would be over US$2 billion per month globally.

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Talkback 77 comments

    MIPI has nothing better to do Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    MIPI has nothing better to do

    music piracy Anonymous -- 21/07/07 (in reply to #120102966)

    How many people would go to work if you where not getting paid?
    So when you get music for free. would you work for free to?
    If someone came to your home and took your car would you be happy?
    If you went to work and your boss did not pay you would you work?
    Think about what you are doing.
    And think as if you where the singer or songwriter.
    would you work for free. How would you Live?

    So.... Anonymous -- 29/02/08 (in reply to #320083170)

    That is the problem, money. If there was no money at all, then it would be much more simplier of to live, just like how our ancestors lived before money was created.

    "This is a signal that In ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    "This is a signal that Internet music piracy is finished in Australia." ha ha ha - what a dork saying something so stupid.

    Let's see "No child will be living in poverty by the year..." - another stupid quote.

    These guys are bone-heads if they think this will stop people. New smarter peer-peer systems are already out and more in the pipeline.

    MIPI - try working with people instead of beating up people - that's called Win-Win. This mindless chasing people will involve more and more of your resources and people will make it harder and harder for you to find them.

    Look at what others are doing - offer a product for a fair price and people will pay - otherwise keep spending a greater portion of your profit on chasing down people.

    So far you are the losers in more way than one.

    Yeah , I can see it now... Tod ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Yeah , I can see it now...

    Today an mp3 dealer was arrested in an early morning raid by 'The Mp3 Squad' in posession of three hundred illegal mp3's , which the dealer was allegedly planning to sell in an mp3 hotspot on the outskirts of Melbourne. Officers from 'The Mp3 Squad' said "this is a big win for them" after 6 months of surveillance operations during Operation 'Force Those Kids To Pay'.

    He was taken to the remand centre and is expected to be refused bail.

    Copyright is something the com ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Copyright is something the community grants to people in the interest of social benefits, but the record companies are abusing this right in the interests of monoploy and profit. Heavy handed tactics will simply expose the moral bankrupcy of their position.

    the artical referes to using t ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    the artical referes to using the US download price, but that service is not avalable to australians if I recall correctly.

    Hmmm... If the artists were ac ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Hmmm... If the artists were actually getting more of the money in royalities from the recording companies instead of ripping them off and taking away their rights, I might actually give a damn about things like copyright and such.

    If an artist was to put their music up online (like David Bowie) and offered it out for say $0.50AUD a download, I would be quite happy to pay for it. But when I am forced to pay upto $30.00 a CD for a single song I like... to hell with that, I'll just go and look for it on the net...

    What a load garbage the money ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    What a load garbage the money hungry record industry is. Music is a series of symbols written in a certain sequence on a series of bars. So if some programmer, don,t tell Bill Gates, wrote a program that put these notes in every order possible, and copyrighted every one then everyone who wrote or published a piece of music would be breaking the law. Which reminds me of the infinate number of monkeys, turned there typewriting skills to music, and wrote every Metallica song, Metallica is suing them for infinate millions of dollars.
    Music invention dear people was credited to Boethius (c. 475 - 525 ) so is the record industry going to pay his relatives copyright on every piece of music they have recorded....lol.

    Can MIPI go after channel 10 f ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Can MIPI go after channel 10 for putting on the Hot house and wasting valuable space that could be filled by up and coming young tv/film producers who *have* talent.

    Dear music industry - Is ignor ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Dear music industry - Is ignorance of the blindingly obvious a pre-requsite for your job? If you made available what I wanted to buy, I'd buy it - but my taste in music doesn't seem to fit with what you want to sell. Example - I watched the movie "Pi" and enjoyed the soundtrack and wanted to buy the album. None of the four shops selling CD's in my local Westfield had it, and none seemed bothered about ordering it for me. One finally did - that was last August. It still hasn't come in. And you wonder why I renewed my acquaintance with Kazaa Lite?

    Terrorism is alive and well in ...Anonymous -- 06/02/04

    Terrorism is alive and well in Australia, its name is MIPI (or should we say RIAA's Puppet, yet another case of American hands fair up Australian arses) These are the people we must fear, not Al-Qaeda.

    The estimate of $2 billion is ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    The estimate of $2 billion is meaningless. Why? Because very few of the files traded by people are of pieces of music that those people would actually go out and buy. Pure and simple. If there was no file sharing, music sales would not increase by $2 billion. Maybe some people would take a risk on the unknown and buy a small fraction of the music they trade, but that's a small number. So the real figure of lost revenue is a tiny fraction of $2 billion. It is merely sensationalist to toss around such a large figure, and obscures the larger issue:
    Why does the music industry promote crappy bands and overcharge for CDs?

    rofl. I love how these corpora ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    rofl. I love how these corporate business pr people have absolutely no understanding of technology OR human nature. The end of p2p.... lmao. hahhahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

    Look how long you've been ragging on kazaa/sharman. LOOK HOW LONG. Now guess what. plenty of people have taken apart the fasttrack protocol. All you have to do is change it slightly, and setup a new business around it and you'll have to go through this whole process again. This is hilarious.

    They'd be better off not being so god damn greedy, accepting the fact that some people will use p2p for this, and stop alienating their customers. I will personally never buy anything from a RIAA supported record label ever again.

    How utterly pathetic wasting g ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    How utterly pathetic wasting good money on something so trivial. Yeah these people downloading a song are a threat to national security, hang them all.

    Oooh, I've always thought &quo ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Oooh, I've always thought "copyright" means I have the right to copy. :)

    In another related case, Microsoft's office in Seattle is raided because I suspect they are using my algorithm to add two numbers together in Excel. I've added two numbers together since 1975, long before Excel was created.

    Funny thing is, if the music i ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Funny thing is, if the music industry wants to keep this from occurring, how about not causing the music buying public to fork over $20 US for a CD that has only one good song, the rest crap. Additionally, didn't the major labels admit to price collusion?

    Utterly useless. I bet all the ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Utterly useless. I bet all the 10 year olds who use KaZaA are laughing right now at all the government monkeys trying to get the big stack of bananas floating in the sky.

    Taking the law into their own ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Taking the law into their own hands?

    No one sees anything wrong with this? Seems dangerous to me. Anyone comes busting into my house and doesn't have a police badge, they're not going to get the benefit of the doubt. Shoot first, ask questions later.

    What about people that downloa ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    What about people that download movies off the net, or burn video games from the net, that's just as worse, wake up!! Music artists have enough money as it is, even if there not even good enough to sing, they still have the cash, while HMV jacks up there cd prices to about 20$ in canada, some of us can't afford that, so yes, we download music off the net, you can blame the stupid music stores!

    Now lets raid the firearm manu ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Now lets raid the firearm manufacturers who are plotting to distribute weapons so that criminals can rob and kill people. US courts have already shown that firearm manufactures are only responsible for a defect that causes a death.

    Is there a defect in Sharman? Sharman doesnt copyright infinge, People copyright infinge.

    There has to be some used Oil ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    There has to be some used Oil platorm or inland out in internation waters that they could buy and turn in into Pirate Island. Where everything is free to share!

    I think it is ridiculous that ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    I think it is ridiculous that the music industry is doing this type of thing. It is there fault, if they had not gouged and ripped off the people who mad them rich the listeners and the bands they would not have had this big of a problem. Why do I want to buy a CD for $20.00 plus dollars when the CD only has one or two good songs and those are the ones on the radio? The music industry has ruined music for everyone the fans the bands and them selves. They make bands play what they think we want to hear, let the bands play what they want and the fans will follow, you don’t rip us off and we will buy, produce a good CD and we will buy. By gouging and ripping us all off you made us (the music industry) go in this direction. Now you know how we have felt for the past 10 plus years that you have been ripping us off, but we did not have the money to fight the system like the industry does. In stead of suing everyone and throwing your weight around you should work with the people, fans, and p2p companies to find a solution that makes everyone happy. In time the people will find another way to beat the system and go around the industry as long as the industry keeps ripping us the people off and pushing us around. We the people need to stand up against the industry and not buy there CDs to show we will not take this lying down, until they change there ways. With out the fans they have nothing. The industry should not S**T on the people who make you the money. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

    Thanks,

    Willie

    Well we have a plan out here i ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Well we have a plan out here in california we are starting. Through the full month of march are not buying anything that comes out from any of the major record companies(small in town bands are cool). Think about if everyone did this for one month..Wouldnt they just keel over and die..If you dont like something, dont get it right...Here is your chance to stand up to the evil axis of the world and show them we arent gonna take it...Tell everyone you can, and please buy no cds in MARCH.

    how the hell did we get a law ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    how the hell did we get a law like the Anton Pilar order passed in this country? Sometimes I wish I told everyone back in London I was a Kiwi.
    Is the MIPI set up as part of the Fair (we are spineless) Trade agreements with the USA? Is the MIPI funded by the government? I hope not because I'd rather see tax payers money go to more useful things such as: support for local film and music industries, university places, public school education, the ABC or hundreds of other worthwhile causes.

    You mean people d/l more than ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    You mean people d/l more than porn?

    Don't worry. I'm sure the nex ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Don't worry. I'm sure the next killer P2P/Gnutella/encrypted file sharing app is already close to completion. There are too many wicked smart people out there and not enough MPAA's and MPAA wannabe's to stop it.

    The recording industry has fin ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    The recording industry has finally gone over the edge - if the pricing of music was reasonable it would be a trade off between the cost of a net connection plus time online, against the cost of music in stores. The artists are paid a small percentage of the total generated by sales of their work and it is the larger piece of the pie that the fighting is all about. I will gladly support the artists, but not the sharks that rip the public off.

    what are they going to be able ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    what are they going to be able to do really? arrest all 3million kazaa users? arrest everyone that uses the net? take kazaa down and something else will replace it. they havent succeeded overseas so now they trying here. good luck.

    Just start paying the artists ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Just start paying the artists and hourly rate with crappy insurance like everyone else in this world. The only ones gaining from any of these rediculous lawsuits and raids are the lawyers.

    Amen to that...The recording i ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Amen to that...The recording industy does rip off the artists. I think they see maybe a whole 3% of what each cd costs. That is bullshit. I am buying the music because of the artist not because of the label who "owns" him.

    $2 billion a joke. 90% of dow ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    $2 billion a joke. 90% of downloads aren't worth 5 cents. The reason there are so many downloads is because it's free. Start charging $1 each and you'll see that number drop to a few million downloads.

    Let's show the recording indus ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Let's show the recording industry some real profit loss. In their quest for profits they "assume" they have lost through file sharing, they have trampled the rights of countless people. The only thing they have accomplished for certain is to thoroughly disgust "former" customers such as myself. I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANOTHER CD AS LONG AS THE ARTIST IS A MEMBER OF THE RIAA, OR A SIMILAR GROUP. IF YOU WANT TO SEND THE MU$IC INDUSTRY A MESSAGE, I SUGGEST YOU DO THE SAME.

    Every time a p2p service gets ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Every time a p2p service gets targeted/attacked by the music industry, they increase the perception of being greedy bastards in the eyes of the public.

    95-98% of those downloads woul ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    95-98% of those downloads wouldn't happen if you had to pay for them. I never paid for music in a store before, and i never will. Its just too easy, even if kazaa was down, i'll just go over to a friends house. MIPI and RIAA have no case, just because bathtubs are made for bathing doesn't mean people don't die in them, so should we sue the bathtub maker, no thats insain. We are the people, we deside what you do, and we desided you lose.

    "If you strike me down, I ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine..."

    So let me get this right. An ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    So let me get this right. An industry association with no Government or regulatory authority is able to obtain and execute a search warrent to enter premises and seize documents? And the courts will find this acceptable evidence in any resulting court case, in spite of the obvious bias of the searching party? What happened to the rule of law in this country? Oh well, we've sold-off or outsourced everything else to the "special interests", why not law enforcement...

    In light of the actions the re ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    In light of the actions the recording industry has taken, I will never purchase another disk, album, tape, or music file of any kind directly linked to the recording industry. I mean, SO WHAT?!? people found a way to share THEIR music. They bought it, they can share it. Lawn mower companies don't get mad and storm houses when you let your neighbor borrow your lawn mower to cut his grass...Do they lose money? yeah! Do they care? No! Get a F*$&^&ng LIFE RIAA!! Pirates INDEED. Who're the pirates here???

    Copying music rules. Do I rea ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Copying music rules. Do I really want to pay $15.00 per CD so that P-Diddy can have TWO houses in the Hamptons. Musicians put out a better product when they're starving.

    The Music Industry Ripped Off ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    The Music Industry Ripped Off Artists For Years...More Power To The Downloaders.

    Ferrier Hodgson contact emails ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    Ferrier Hodgson contact emails

    Michael Potter (Forensic Divsion)
    mpotter@syd.fh.com.au

    Steve Sherman (Partner)
    ssherman@syd.fh.com.au

    Ian Ferrier (Partner)
    iferrier@syd.fh.com.au

    Main Switch +61 2 9286 9999
    Main Fax +61 2 9286 9888

    IF THE WORLD IS SMART THEN WE ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    IF THE WORLD IS SMART THEN WE ALL SHOULD STOP BUYING OR SEEING ANY MUSIC ARTISTS FOR 1 YEAR AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE THERE STUPID PROFITS. THE DUNG BETTLES CALLED RIAA HAVE THERE HEAD UP THERE **** GEEZ. CAN YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO THEN SCREW WITH YOUNG PEOPLE OR DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR REALLY MAKING A DIFF. 'CUSE ALL YOUR DOIN' IS PISSING PEOPLE OFF AND ONE DAY WE'LL DO SOMETHING CRAZY (LIKE I DONT KNOW MAYBE STOP BUYING YOUR CRAP)

    I haven't purchased any music ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    I haven't purchased any music for at least 8 years. I've only been online for 3 years. I never knew the RIAA existed until recently but from what I have read, it sounds like Satan runs their business.

    laugh , those sad mipi guys ju ...Anonymous -- 07/02/04

    laugh , those sad mipi guys just get worse , or are they just trying to keep themselves in a job. They will never shut down any p2p network as demand for them is so great. anyway who says everything on p2p is copyrighted. can they prove that 3 million users are simply downloading copyright material , i donot think so, blowing in the wind if you ask me.

    if i didnt have the means to d ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    if i didnt have the means to download music for free i wouldnt have as many songs as i do and the fact is i wouldnt go out and buy it anyway so the record company in a way wouldnt be any better or worse off at the end of the day.i say if technology is available to use then use it. music is the food of love. are we ever going to stop putting a price on everything.these days the only thing we get for free is hate and all the things that come with it.people who make songs want people to listen,when the people want to listen we have to pay or we dont hear.whats all that about?

    if i didnt have the means to d ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    if i didnt have the means to download music for free i wouldnt have as many songs as i do and the fact is i wouldnt go out and buy it anyway so the record company in a way wouldnt be any better or worse off at the end of the day.i say if technology is available to use then use it. music is the food of love. are we ever going to stop putting a price on everything.these days the only thing we get for free is hate and all the things that come with it.people who make songs want people to listen,when the people want to listen we have to pay or we dont hear.whats all that about?

    they're hungry for the billion ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    they're hungry for the billions of dollars that they'll never get, at least not out of me, not even a penny!
    in my opinion, you should support your favorite artists, (thats if they're effort is worth paying 20 dollars a cd!!!!!) otherwise i ain't paying jack for it. i consider my ISP bills a part of my support for the artists that i download their music.
    personally i don't think and hope not that the greedy entertainers/industry, getting nowhere w/ this, but u can't blame them they're still trying like the fat pigs they are!
    hopefully we'll all have a chance to take a bite out of they're roasted BBQ!

    You can't stop file sharing. I ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    You can't stop file sharing. It is IMPOSSIBLE.
    The technology is already out there to rip songs from CDs, the programs are already out there to share them. all you can do is slow the spread, but if somebody wants a song for free, they will get it. period.

    oh sure this will help stop &q ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    oh sure this will help stop "piracy" uh huh

    Just a thought (2 actually). 1 ...Anonymous -- 08/02/04

    Just a thought (2 actually).

    1) How is downloading music from Kazaa any different than say borrowing a CD from a mate or a library? How is it different from recording a movie off TV rather than buying it?

    2) What if the music you want is forign (last time I checked my local CD store they didn't stock Ayumi Hamasaki) or the band that performed it are since defunct (Kick - Axe is one such example). If it can't be purchased through normal channels how else is it to be obtained?

    So to RIAA and MIPI, I say this:

    Arrr, avast me hearties.

    I DO NOT WANT TO PAY 10 DOLLAR ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    I DO NOT WANT TO PAY 10 DOLLARS FOR A CD WHEN I CAN GET THE SONGS I WANT FOR FREE, i AM NOT GOING TO STOP DOWNLOADING.

    I had a little thought a few d ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    I had a little thought a few days ago and i began wondering about it. If its illegal to burn music onto a cd-r (not including the downloading part of it) then why are all the major stores (Office Max, Wal-Mart, Best Buy) allowed to sell the cd-r's in the first place. ((This does not include the purpose of backing up your hard drive or other givens.))

    MIPI have a couple of corrupt ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    MIPI have a couple of corrupt ex police on the books. Another is known for taking bribes in government outsourcing contracts. They are using unlicenced copies of I2's Analyst’s Notebook and other investigation products.

    MIPI have a couple of corrupt ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    MIPI have a couple of corrupt ex police on the books. Another is known for taking bribes in government outsourcing contracts. They are using unlicenced copies of I2's Analyst’s Notebook and other investigation products.

    REVEALED: The names of the Cor ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    REVEALED: The names of the Corrupt Ex-Police That work at MIDI....

    "Fair & Just" cause one's a FAIR-Dinkum arsehole and the other one's JUST A Proper ****

    They used to be Gestapo but this is much more fun...

    Kicking arse and cracking skulls and busting their own mum's

    They call them FAIR & JUST...

    [repeat chorus]

    I'm KNOW that most people have ...Anonymous -- 09/02/04

    I'm KNOW that most people have not a slightest clue how high is professional level of recordings and how is hard for musician to be even heard by record label.

    It’s very easy to judge the quality of the music but is very hard to make it good.

    The same way is easy to see the highest building.

    Easy to judge, hard to built!

    And most muzos in the whole world are trying very hard to make absolutely the best in their recordings. Because the price is high.

    Regards of value of CD's...

    1. If you don't like it, don't buy it! Simple!

    2. if you like on radio, keep listening to radio station.

    IT'S FREE!!!!!!

    3. If you are that fussy and you have to have the latest, pay the price!

    NO NEED TO STEEL IT!

    4. If you want cheap music, it’s plenty at mp3.com.au, garagenband.com and thousands of other places

    There you can have it for free.

    Again… NO NEED TO STEEL IT!

    Be honest!!!!

    ;-D

    Hi, I'm a muzo, done some reco ...Anonymous -- 10/02/04

    Hi,

    I'm a muzo, done some recordings and I know how expensive it is to do a recording

    BUT

    I use my CD's to promote myself, I make my money when a perform in real person at gigs. My CD is my business card...

    Feel free to copy my CD as many times as you like, as long as you do not make money from it! Then I'll fall on you like a tonne of bricks...

    MIPI just collects the money, hardy any royalies go to the artist...

    PS. The above writing is copyrighted ;-)

    I have a file called BDE by br ...Anonymous -- 10/02/04

    I have a file called BDE by brilliant digital, that can not be araised I have tried adaware6.0 pest patrol and many others and none of them seem to be getting rid of this BDE File. Does anyone know how to get rid of this pest?

    Things like iTunes and that ar ...Anonymous -- 10/02/04

    Things like iTunes and that are all well and good for everyone that lives in Yankville and such, but what about England, Australia, Canada and Germany etc.

    If these were availible I'd get me an account, shall we say of 100 bucks, if I want a song it get off them, and the deduct money. But sadly, Apple and all these other arseholes run on this principal "If its outside America (Land of the **** we don't care".

    So come on Apple, and anyone else who runs legit p2p outfits, put your money where your mouth is or go **** yourselves

    Things like iTunes and that ar ...Anonymous -- 10/02/04

    Things like iTunes and that are all well and good for everyone that lives in Yankville and such, but what about England, Australia, Canada and Germany etc.

    If these were availible I'd get me an account, shall we say of 100 bucks, if I want a song it get off them, and the deduct money. But sadly, Apple and all these other arseholes run on this principal "If its outside America (Land of the **** we don't care".

    So come on Apple, and anyone else who runs legit p2p outfits, put your money where your mouth is or go **** yourselves

    Hi to all of you!    ...Anonymous -- 12/02/04

    Hi to all of you!

         I have grown-up with the 78 rpm, then the 45 rpm at $0.99 for 2 songs, then the 33 rpm, when recording companies began to put more songs, on a record, and still raising prices at the same time.

         It began hurting people when majors put 1 or 2 songs really liked by consumers, along with 12 to 15 others, and asked for a higher price. When the more appealing CD format hit the market, prices still went up, around $20 for 1 or 2 songs really liked by consumers. It is a very high price to be paid!

         The consumer had no choice at that time. Majors had found a way to sell the container instead of the content, at a gold price!

         It looks like if the Coca-Cola Company had tried to continue to sell its 6.5 ounces Coke bottle as the single size available on the market, at a big price.

    Coca-Cola has learned since long that product is a lot more important than its container and that you have to adapt yourself or perish. Its adaptation ability has made this company great, with the most well-known and most distributed product in the world.

         The Music industry still tries to sell the container instead of the content, when it should concentrate on the content . . . . . music.

         With the upcoming of the Internet and the mp2 and mp3 encodings, asking for intelligent and collaborative people, a new freedom culture was born.

    Consumers started to encode their old 45 and 33 rpms and store them on their computers, for content and space saving, and handiness.

         At last . . . !
         The consumer could listen to the songs he already highly paid for . . . .

         With high speed Internet connections spreading, P2P music sharing systems have appeared. These systems have permitted many consumers to recuperate songs they already paid for, a long time ago, and no more accessible due to old and used "containers".

         Some consumers have abused this system by getting songs they never bought before. Recording companies then started suing and closing most of the music sharing systems, without offering an alternate solution.

         Many underground systems were born overnight and the music industry's problems were aggravated by increased consumers' resistance and decreases in CDs sales.

         The best idea the music industry has found is the suing of young Netizens on University campuses and at home, still refusing to adapt itself to new realities. The worst case being a 12 years old girl's one, in the USA.

         Personally, I know no industry succeeding to survive by suing its customers, and still refusing to adapt itself.

         In fact, consumers have been driven to think it is absolutely normal to download music from the Internet for free since the music industry tried to sell them a container for a big tag without a viable alternate solution.

         Recently, we have seen a drop in CDs prices, from the majors, as a desperate move to re-capture the lost market shares in a declining container market.

    Today the consumer wants to choose the music he wants, at a reasonable price, and to burn or use it on the support of his choice, his own CDs, or on his own player, fixed or on the go.

         Imagine traditional CDs printing, handling, shipping, warehousing, marketing and retailing costs. It is huge money spent for a container the consumer no longer wants under its present form.

         The new paradigm . . . . . .

         The WM-MW network founders previewed all these changes, as soon as 1997, and started working hard to design and create a new and unique music distribution system, still promoting independent composers and songwriters and helping valuable causes at local, regional, district, provincial, national and international levels.

         Today consumers are ready to pay or make a donation of $1 for a song they really like. They are no more ready to pay $20 for this song or its container.

         One of the consumers I interviewed said to me: "I would have preferred a l

        The new par ...Anonymous -- 12/02/04

        The new paradigm . . . . . .

         The WM-MW network founders previewed all these changes, as soon as 1997, and started working hard to design and create a new and unique music distribution system, still promoting independent composers and songwriters and helping valuable causes at local, regional, district, provincial, national and international levels.

         Today consumers are ready to pay or make a donation of $1 for a song they really like. They are no more ready to pay $20 for this song or its container.

         One of the consumers I interviewed said to me: "I would have preferred a lot more to pay $650 for music I like than paying $13,000 for the 650 CDs I have now on my shelves."

         Consumers have now the choice with the Internet, thanks to pioneers who have understood the new market tendencies by creating new ways of owning music in a legal and ethical manner, and also respecting the composers and songwriters rights.

         WebMusic-MusiqueWeb uses the 3 A's that have sent Coca-Cola to the summit, with an excellent product:

    * Availability: Worldwide availability thanks to the Internet
    * Affordability: Affordable price for consumer
    * Acceptability: Socially acceptable by community and the
    way the consumer wants it

         And . . . . it's just the beginning . . . .

         Success belongs to people ready to catch it!

         Will you be one of them?

         Enroll now for free, from the site of the Affiliate who referred you to us.

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    Hey Speck, i thought we were t ...Anonymous -- 15/02/04

    Hey Speck, i thought we were the biggest music piracy operation in Australia? Funny thing is Kazaa was around too when we were in operation and now they are the biggest? Fuckn full of **** hypocrite

    i meant we as in Mp3/Wma Land ...Anonymous -- 15/02/04

    i meant we as in Mp3/Wma Land hahaha

    Does anyone know exactly who M ...Anonymous -- 15/02/04

    Does anyone know exactly who MIPI are, because in my knowledge of the law, no private/civilian organisation is allowed to have the same powers as police or other law enforcement agencies.

    So my other question is who do these douchebags work for?

    "Does anyone know who MIP ...Anonymous -- 16/02/04

    "Does anyone know who MIPI are?"

    MIPI is not statutorily given with powers to raid anyone. They asked a court to let them enforce an order that required them to "raid" certain parties without notice.

    tell the freaking MIPI to get ...Anonymous -- 18/02/04

    tell the freaking MIPI to get a real job... the RIAA gets enough and more money in any case from the people who go out and buy the originals. they're just greedy and want more money!!

    I don't think many of you real ...Anonymous -- 30/09/04

    I don't think many of you realise the fact that, even though we may agree that many record companies don't give the artist a fair'er' share of the money, for the moment....the prices for things are just what they need to be for everyong to get their cut of the profits (Wether that's too much or too little is only relative to your opinion, which many times is not well informed). There's no reason to download music illegally when you can download a certain song you like for a small price "legitimately" from many reputable internet/companies sites that sell music.

    The only thing illegal downloaders are doing, is ruining the industry. From preventing good artists from making good music in the first place, and making laws tighter and tighter as governments agree on the un-justs of artists work for FREE.

    From CCTV camera's around every street corner, to tracking every thing you say and do in your life...it's criminals that are making these things happen...they do the wrong thing, and a reaction to prevent it takes place.

    All you law breakers are doing is **** everything up, STOP downloading music....listen to the radio, hear demo songs from mp3 websites, demo songs from artist websites, listen to the album at the music store....if you only like 1 song on there, go buy the damn thing off a reputable music distributor. DON'T STEAL!

    Just because someone makes plenty money, does't mean anyone has the right to steal from them, grow up....get a job or something and stop stealing.

    Every person who breaks the law willingly and doesn't care, needs to really take a good look at themselves. If your willing to do a crime, then pay the price....I bet none of you pussies would go and steal music from a music store with your bare hands? I've said that to many music downloading fucks and they are just wimps. No single person I've confronted about it, has been able to put a winning argument across as to why it's ok to download music for free.
    Instead of being a thief, how about lobbying to change the laws and regulations that govern the industry. For some reason "supposedly" music is too expensive for you to pay, or the stupid way in which you idiots attempt to punish the record industry.......the way you idiots are going about it is just criminal. Get off your arse and try to make a change so that whatever you complain about, you complain no more. Otherise, do without and stop your mumbo jumbo bullshit excuses for breaking the law.

    digital info is a #. you can' ...Anonymous -- 26/10/04

    digital info is a #. you can't copywrite a #.
    everything on your computer is a number; 1s and 0s that translate into a different number. a number is a fact, no matter how big it is. you can't copyright a fact. therefore, by extention of international copyright law, everything on your computer is outside their juristiction.

    digital info is a #. you can' ...Anonymous -- 26/10/04

    digital info is a #. you can't copywrite a #.
    everything on your computer is a number; 1s and 0s that translate into a different number. a number is a fact, no matter how big it is. you can't copyright a fact. therefore, by extention of international copyright law, everything on your computer is outside their juristiction.

    Brilliant Digital Entertainmen ...Anonymous -- 29/05/05

    Brilliant Digital Entertainment. Nothing but kiddie porn purveyors, browser hijackers, supplier of Trojan Viruses, spyware/adware intallers and a cess pool organization of hacks.
    They deserve everything that comes their way in the form of jail or untimely death.

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