The ACS fires ... but shoots blanks?

commentary The Australian Computer Society plans to meet government officials this week to highlight the urgent need for immigration reform.

The society came out all guns blazing, armed with a policy statement on how the influx of foreign professionals has robbed local technology workers of jobs. It even had several recommendations for the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs (DIMIA) on how the government's skilled migration programs could be improved.

As at June 2004, the migration visa programs contributed about 16,000 people to the ICT workforce, or 10 percent of Australia's total technology workforce, the ACS said.

In terms of the different classifications, 9,000 applications were approved for long-term permanent residency. For the short-term 457 and 417 working visas, 5,000 and 2,000 were granted respectively.

The first point on ACS' to-do list is to lobby the government to reduce the number of foreign students who proceed to become permanent residents upon completing their studies. Last year, 4,700 non-resident Australian technology graduates became residents through the General Skilled Migration Program.

To maintain a vibrant work environment for local graduates, this is a step in the right direction. But just how much reduction is required -- taking into consideration our ageing population, which in turn underlines the need for a larger taxable pool? The ACS offered no clear answers.

It was initially believed that the silence stemmed from a legal wrangle with Bob Kinnaird, the labour market specialist who authored a report on the impact of Australia's ICT immigration policies -- the main source of the society's policy statement.

But at last Friday's media conference, ACS President Edward Mandla claimed ignorance.

"I don't know .... We really don't know .... We haven't got that data."

"I don't have a figure," Mandla repeated, adding that it was neither up to him nor the ACS to provide such statistics.

But ZDNet Australia  discovered that Kinnaird did indeed propose a specific reduction in numbers.

It's unclear why Mandla misrepresented himself instead of claiming immunity on legal grounds.

On the issue of 457 temporary working visas, the ACS had a total of seven recommendations on how DIMIA could tighten the process. For instance, it called on the minimum salaries for such visas to be based on market rate and ICT specialisation, and reviewed annually.

For all its talk, for all the damage 457 visas have apparently caused ... the ACS didn't call for a decrease in the number of visas granted. It did, however, highlight the need for technical skills assessment -- a role the society undertakes for ICT applicants under the General Skilled Migration Program.

The ACS charges a non-refundable fee of $350 to assess the skills of foreigners seeking permanent residency. If 457 visas were included -- a role which Mandla readily wants-- and based on the number of ICT workers in this category, this would mean an additional $1.7 million. In total, this figure could be much higher since every single applicant -- successful or not -- will have to pay to get their skills assessed.

There will be much to talk about when Mandla meets department officials in Canberra. To succeed, hopefully, he is less elusive and has proper facts to justify his claims. Otherwise, it will be back to square one ... especially for the ACS.

Fran Foo is ZDNet Australia managing editor.

Talkback 4 comments

    Immigration -- what a load of ...Anonymous -- 06/05/05

    Immigration -- what a load of artificial crap.

    Can anyone please explain the logic of the following to me:

    Why a company, based in an Australian city (say Darwin) can stand there and look one direction and see a great programmer 2,720 km away* and then turn around the opposite direction and see another average programmer 4,100 km away**.

    The first programmer is: closer, has better communication skills, better technical skills, better background and is all-round better; yet costs the same wage to employ as the second, further away person.

    (Alternatively you could be looking at two programmers with exactly the same skills and qualities, yet the closer one costs less to employ.)

    Now, explain to me why this artificial government restriction forces me to employ the person who is further away and denies me the ability to employ the closer person???

    - Sly

    * Jakarta, Indonesia, is 2,720 km away from Darwin.
    ** Sydney, Australia, is 4,100 km away from Darwin.

    Someone asked why he should be ...Anonymous -- 08/05/05

    Someone asked why he should be denied the right to hire a foreign programmer who is georaphically less distant than a citizen programmer who is geographically more distant.

    If people in technical areas bothered to educate themselves on legal and geopolitical realities, the government and other self-serving organisations wouldn't find it so easy to run rings aound them.

    Dear Fran I am responding to y ...Anonymous -- 10/05/05

    Dear Fran

    I am responding to your article earlier this week in which you claimed Edward Mandla was "lying" regarding the provision of a figure on the number of skilled ICT migrants the ACS was looking to reduce.

    Edward's comment that he “doesn't have a figure” is correct. The ACS does not have a specific figure it is putting to Government – nor does it see this as its role. This is a role for Government, as Edward noted in his comments on the day.

    In the ACS view, it would be irresponsible and inappropriate for anyone to put forward a specific number at this stage as any opinions regarding what that figure should be would be based on a set of ****umptions rather than hard data. Indeed the point made at the conference, and in the policy document and media material is that this ACS is calling for “adjustments to allow for … more detailed data collection and reporting to facilitate informed future decision-making… “and for “Skilled migration decisions based on clearer, more transparent information before and after placement.”

    We understand the temptation to put a hard number or a percentage on this. However in this instance we feel taking such as stance would actually be detrimental and a distraction from the core issue. As we have noted throughout the policy, the core issue in our view is the need to be clearer about the type of migration we are bringing into the country. We are calling for greater granularity of data on which to base permanent migrations decisions. The right number will be achieved when we are confident that the skills entering the country are well matched to the skills in demand within the industry. That requires more data.

    Finally, it is not the purpose of the ACS migration policy to promote or endorse the work of external consultants. The relevant position is the one the ACS endorses and puts to Government - which is contained within our policy document.

    I trust this clarifies.

    Hi Fran .. for what it is wort ...Anonymous -- 17/05/05

    Hi Fran .. for what it is worth I simply do not think the ACS has ANY relevance at all to anyone in IT .. apart from a few lucky people within the ACS hierarchy. Further even if the ACS suddenly developed more teeth the reality is that the current government and business environs is very attracted to importing so-called expertise and exporting jobs.

    There is no logic at all for this in a sound , localized and fundamentally Australian centric market place. The problem is that the concept of a global market place lends to these masters of industry and political decision makers the ability to effectively horse trade with other nations. As a student of third world economies and global power and under development I know that the capital market place must forever seek widening markets. Whether this is right or wrong is academic. We at a local level do not like it but it seems we are being told it is our new reality and get used to it. This is so sad.

    A question I would now be asking is IF ACS , our present Governments both State and Federal
    and the captains of industry think that this trend is OK WHY WHY oh WHY do we keep electing them ??? What is their use to US !!

    Is it that Australians are so unaware of what is happening , so naive and so apathetic that we deserve this outcome. What staggers me is the deafening silence from those who should care LONGER TERM and who yet refuse to be a voice .. refuse to champion change and refuse to undertake risk.

    Whatever happened to the generation that changed the world in the 60's and 70's .. are we all dead politically , financially and morally ??

    There is absolutely no doubt that Australians if given a fair go and a truly level playing field could stand up with anyone in the world .. no doubt about that at all. But we are deliberately left out in the cold for effective training , our skillsets are deliberately run down in often meaningless short term jobs with no long term future (the now society having caused this) research and true development always being put on the back burner. The list goes on. The solution always come back to political will and leadership. We have neither in this country.

    As an aside a huge consignment of strawberries has been ordered by Safeway from the US. They have been sprayed with a toxic substance to ensure slow aging and will ship here no cheaper than local produce. This can only be coming about as a result of deals done between Howard/Bush at other levels and is in addition to the Mexican Almonds and Apricots and the Californian Oranges currently being shipped. Its not just IT .;. everything in Australia is being dumbed down to effectively kill the power of Unions , cripple workers ability to achieve higher wages or even a basic wage in some cases ,, keeps workers in a state of anxiety and fear so that profits can grow and grow. This is a short term recipe for long term melt down and is going to cause a massive and fundamental economic problem for everyone in this country as the baby boomer generation either fail to find work , give up , die or retire whichever comes first.

    Do you know why Lindsay Fox and Packer have an interest in Avalon Airport .. has nothing to do with cheap domestic air flights via Jetstar that's the front .. its a direct doorway to the Melbourne Fruit and Vegetable Market from the US. Go figure ...

    I think the whole country has to be told this is serious and demand governments reverse this trend or get out or be put out.

    In my view it requires the same National Protesting that went on in the Vietnam War .. its that serious.

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