No changing back 457 visas for IT recruiters

The Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) has rejected calls from the IT recruitment industry to ditch changes to the 457 visas made by the Howard government.

Representatives of the IT Consulting and Recruitment Association (ITCRA) and the Recruitment and Consulting Services Association met with DIAC and the Department of Workplace Relations late last week to discuss changes made by the previous government to the 457 skilled immigration visas.

The changes, made shortly before the Howard government was ousted in the Federal election in November last year, required recruiters sponsoring 457 workers to keep a percentage of Australian-born workers on their books or in training. ITCRA executive director, Norman Lacy, described the changes as having caused devastation within the industry after they went into effect last year.

Lacy was not available for comment today, but a DIAC spokesperson told ZDNet.com.au that employers had been "encouraged to work with the Commonwealth so that mutually beneficial outcomes can be achieved", even though the government has no intention of reversing the changes at this stage.

The spokesperson also accused the recruitment industry creating extra delays by failing to deliver adequate labour agreement applications, saying: "While there has been understandable delays caused by the introduction of the new arrangements, the on-hire industry has contributed to delays through the lodgement of incomplete applications without sufficient supporting evidence."

Susie Rogers, director of ICT recruitment firm Rusher Rogers, said that the changes have made it difficult to hire personnel in some areas.

"Our clients have a whole range of special roles that they can't fill ... I think the industry is well and truly willing to do whatever it takes to lift the restrictions to fill these positions, they're not the type of roles where you can compromise on," she said.

However, Rogers also spoke out against the ongoing publicity the IT skills shortage is receiving saying companies need to look to alternative methods of filling vacant positions. "There's so much bleating on about the skills shortage at the moment, but we just want to get something done about it ... half the problem is just in educating organisations to look for other possible resources for recruitment".

"Maybe the 457 visa isn't the silver bullet industry's been looking for ... maybe we should just look at other areas where people are crying out for work, such as return to work mums and part-time workers," she said.

According to Rogers, security specialists and experienced c++ and Java programmers are still some of the most sought after candidates in the ICT workforce: "It's getting very hard to find those people at the moment," she added.

Talkback 11 comments

    457 Visa's Anonymous -- 05/05/08

    The changes made were still not enough. The 457 visa system is a festering sore that needs fixing. To many of these so called skilled imports are not skilled at all. All they do is reduce wages and contract rates for Australians.

    RE: 457 Anonymous Reader -- 05/05/08 (in reply to #320101075)

    I completely agree with the comment above!!! why not look into fixing our education system here, encourgae more people, teens for schools and training. I am of a different ethnic background I think 457 is a threat to locals.

    cheap imported droid IT workers Peter -- 05/05/08 (in reply to #320101075)

    ...then the local IT workers who actually ARE skilled have to clean up after or argue with the "cheap" import workers to fix what the outsource fodder have misconfigured or damaged. Wasting everyone's time and money. Cheap in the extremely short term, expensive in the long term.

    There's a what-now? Anonymous -- 06/05/08

    Geez! An IT skills shortage? I live in a rather irrelevant town called Lismore in Northern NSW. I'm 24 years old and I have more than adequate skills but i can't even get a reliable job in this damn town.

    I don't think there's a skills shortage - its more like a willpower shortage I think. Too many capable workers who lack motivation and confidence to actually get work, and too many employers concerned too much about maximizing profit. Whatever happened to the days when business was a backbone for communities?

    I'm really glad the DIAC rejected those calls. I think outsourcing is disgusting.

    I think outsourcing is disgusting. Anonymous -- 06/05/08 (in reply to #320101108)

    Outsourcing is another issue apart from this 457 visa system. But both have the same effect on wages and conditions in Australia. If I find a company I am dealing with is outsourcing I look for for someone else to deal with. But this is getting harder by the day.

    Skills Shortage Anonymous -- 06/05/08

    As a security professional with 8 years in the industry and up to date certification I am sick and tired of the constant bleating about the IT skills shortage - the truth is there isn't one and hasn't been one for some time.

    I am a UK citizen, who came over here on a working holiday visa, It took me 4 months to find a company that would sponsor me on a 457 and I was forced to take a job far below my worth and experience.

    4 years on I now have permanent residence through skilled migration as a Security specialist.

    I have been looking for work over the past 3 months, and have had just 1 interview (the interviewer told me he had already interviewed about 40 candidates)

    The truth is that although there are many many positions advertised, there are very few real jobs. Many positions advertised are companies simply filling their databases, either to create sales leads, or so they can boast to their clients about how many people they have on their books. Also most recruiters re post the same adds every day creating the illusion of new jobs. Add to this the fact that most companies engage a number of recruiters, so you see several add for the same job from different recruiters. Look at the security jobs on seek.com.au over one week if you don't believe me.

    The real reason the recruitment industry continues to propagate the myth about the skills shortage is because it is mostly made up of unskilled migrants on 457 visas desperately trying to justify their own gravy train.

    Re: Skills Shortage Anonymous -- 06/05/08 (in reply to #320101118)

    I second that motion. I was in a similar situation with you before and now currently working in a call centre that is far from what I am qualified for.

    I had been looking for about 6 months after I graduated from my postgrad in IT. What all employers are concern is how much I am willing to take as package/wages.

    Out of the hundreds of CV I have sent, I got a handful of interviews and all responded that I am over qualified for the role they advertised.

    Went for senior position and response was I do not have experiences.

    One recruiter who call me for a position actually took up that position himself! if we have skills shortage, why are we still looking for that imaginary golden career stepping stone?

    457 Visas Anonymous -- 06/05/08

    Since we have such a skll shortage why is it when i apply for a role so do 80 other people

    457 Visas Anonymous -- 06/05/08 (in reply to #320101127)

    Because 70 of the respondents are 457 Visa holders all of whom will work for less money than you. Of those 70 60 will have identical CV's apart from the contact details. The remaining 10 CV's will be to hard read so they go into the bin.

    457 Visas Anonymous -- 06/05/08 (in reply to #320101129)

    Are we doing anything with the current out-sourcing and off-shore strategy trends that Australian companies are moving into. I think that is where most of the vacancies have gone to.

    There are companies with Labour Agreements for On Hire Anonymous -- 15/10/08

    There are some companies who do the right thing and support the industry with Training.

    Such as

    Lesters http://www.lester.com.au/

    3W http://www.3w.com.au/

    Bayside http://www.baysidegrp.com.au/

    These companies should be supported and congratulated

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