Microsoft, Victorian Govt sign AU$80 million deal

The Victorian Government and Microsoft have hooked up to a four-year AU$80 million contract, that will see the software giant create a AU$5 million R&D fund to be thrown back into the area.

The contract will aggregate the government's Microsoft desktop software licences. "This will result in a saving to Victorian taxpayers of more than AU$19 million on the retail value of desktop software," said the Minister for Information and Communication Technology, Marsha Thomson.

"The contract with Microsoft provides the Victorian Government with excellent value-for-money and includes access to regular upgrades of software during the life of the contract," she added.

Microsoft's state manager, Kerstin Baxter, said that during the term of the agreement the Government is "covered for all future versions of the core products" including Windows and Office, as well as the client software for the enterprise server products. This will simplify administration and allow departments to deploy new versions when they are ready and without additional cost, she said.

"We have recognised [the Victorian Government's] previous commitment" to Microsoft software in setting the contract price, Baxter added.

The AU$5 million Microsoft e-Government Innovation Fund will be used to support the Victorian Government's 'Putting People at the Centre' vision for e-government.

The exact size of the fund depends on the number of licences taken up by the State Government, Microsoft officials said, but will be approximately AU$5 million over three or four years.

'Putting People at the Centre' was announced by Minister for Innovation, John Brumby, and Thomson, in March. Part of the government's Connecting Victoria ICT strategy, it aims to position Victoria as a global leader in innovative Government service delivery by substantially improving support and services to Victorians; providing better community engagement and more effective democracy, using innovation in finding new opportunities in service delivery, and creating a framework for ongoing reform within government. Thomson said the Victorian Government committed to providing citizens with faster and easier ways to interact with government.

"The Microsoft e-Government Innovation Fund will be used to undertake Microsoft software research and development projects focused on e-Government applications," she said. The fund "will see cutting edge research projects undertaken in Victoria and could see products developed for the global e-Government market".

While a ministerial spokesperson said the fund will be used for R&D activities within the State Government, it is not yet clear whether the money will be spent entirely in-house or if it will fund projects carried out by outside organisations on the government's behalf.

Microsoft MD Paul Houghton said: "Microsoft shares the Victorian Government's belief that technology can change the way government operates and empower citizens by making government resources available to them over the Internet."

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Talkback 21 comments

    Will this be the normal M$ tac ...Anonymous -- 16/05/02

    Will this be the normal M$ tactic that any one attempting to connect to these e-applications will be required to run M$ software

    Never ever do volume buyers pa ...Anonymous -- 16/05/02

    Never ever do volume buyers pay retail prices.

    "The contract will aggregate the government's Microsoft desktop software licences. "This will result in a saving to Victorian taxpayers of more than AU$19 million on the retail value of desktop software," said the Minister for Information and Communication Technology, Marsha Thomson."

    Why are we exporting Australian jobs to the USA?
    Why do we buy proprietory software with known backdoors, see the report of the European Parliament?

    Isn't it nice to have our info monitored by Microsoft?

    We should introduce laws stipulating that open source software must be used if it can be shown that it can fullfil the requirements.

    Stop sending Australian cash overseas for not much in return.

    OpenOffice.org 1.0 is free and ...Anonymous -- 17/05/02

    OpenOffice.org 1.0 is free and Free. It runs on Windows,
    Solaris, Linux, and Mac. It has all the requirements for
    government office productivity. It reads/writes/repairs
    Microsoft Office formats in addition to many other
    non-propriatory office suite file formats. It is
    reliable and may well be the product that changes
    peoples perception of what office productivity is all
    about. Multiplatform means that you could use OOo
    on your Windows machine today. Tomorrow you will see
    the same office suite on your desktop but the computer
    might be running Linux and you won't care.

    OpenOffice.org 1.0 is revolutionary and a simple elegant
    solution. The Victorian Government is not. That's the
    problem. When will they catch on ?

    Maybe if the Victoran governme ...Anonymous -- 17/05/02

    Maybe if the Victoran government had followed in the footsteps of the governments of Peru, South Korea, China and Germany and adopted an Open Source software policy then perhaps they might have saved a few tens of millions more. But hey, why build a few more schools or fill a few more hospital beds when you can add to Bill's pile of cash, right?

    The Victorian Govt has cost Vi ...Anonymous -- 17/05/02

    The Victorian Govt has cost Victorians $80 Million. Not saved us 19 million

    Ripped off! 20% of retail? Wha ...Leon Brooks -- 17/05/02

    Ripped off! 20% of retail? What government would pay full retail? THIS IS NOT A SAVING. YOU ARE BEING RIPPED OFF. KILL THE DEAL!

    Why snub us locals AGAIN? Why ...Leon again -- 17/05/02

    Why snub us locals AGAIN? Why make a rich foreign company richer at the expense of creative local businesses? Why fund a local sales office for foreign interests instead of creative local developers? Ask your representative! [Full disclosure: I'm one of those locals. I have more work than I can cope with.]

    Why snub us locals AGAIN? Why ...Leon again -- 17/05/02

    Why snub us locals AGAIN? Why make a rich foreign company richer at the expense of creative local businesses? Why fund a local sales office for foreign interests instead of creative local developers? Ask your representative! [Full disclosure: I'm one of those locals. I have more work than I can cope with.]

    So... antivirus costs what? Ev ...Leon [can you tell that I think this is a dumb idea?] -- 17/05/02

    So... antivirus costs what? Even if you regard $19 million off $99 million as a saving (it isn't), add back the cost of antivirus software (which is NOT NEEDED if you use Linux, FreeBSD or the like) and your phantom `saving' vanishes like mist before the summer sun. PS, this website has a bug. I posted this in a new form and it put up a dupe of my previous post instead.

    Earn $40k in 3 months! No mone ...Leon [with a modest proposal this time] -- 17/05/02

    Earn $40k in 3 months! No money down! If the government had used its collective brains, it'd have spent at least half of the $80 million with Australians. With that money, we could field 500 Australian Open Source experts for three months to convert the more than half of Vic Gummint desktops which run nothing but office apps, a browser and mail to Linux and OpenOffice.org, plus a rolling roster of forty experts to do on-site support for the next 4 years (do Microsoft include THAT in their deal?) in additional to the existing support network. We'd even throw in conversion of more than half of the existing Microsoft server population for free. The State supports local industry, makes a big dent in their virus problem, improves reliability, keeps older computers in service for longer, and in some degree empowers every single State employee to deal with their own now-reduced IT problems on the spot if they so choose. At the end of 4 years, more than half of your IT keeps working legally for free with no further input. Meanwhile, Open Source development has well and truly eclisped anything Microsoft have to offer, so the $40 million you spend in 2006 also goes to Australians for the conversion of the remaining computers. You save $60 million. There is no licencing spend in 2010 or thereafter. You save $100 million every 4 years, not counting the virus apps etc which are no longer necessary. How about it?

    A short-sighted and politicall ...Anonymous -- 17/05/02

    A short-sighted and politically expedient deal. As others have asked, what government anywhere pays retail prices or receives a paltry 20% discount? Five million back to Australia? Be still my beating heart! Five million is small change to a monopolistic giant such as Microsoft and surely offers little to the Autstralian IT industry.

    Throughout Australian history we have had a rich technological harvest. Our innovations include rust and drought resistant crops, the stump-jump plough, over-the-horizon radar, Andrew Tridgell's SaMBa software, the automatic totallisator, the CSIRO's contributions in many fields, the Florey's.... Australia is not a country lacking in technological talent.

    As others have stated eloquently, the development of our own software and/or the incorporation of Open Source software has much to offer both economically and for our security/peace of mind. The recent Peruvian document should be required reading for politicians responsible for decisions on IT. Were the Honourable Minister's advisers asleep at the switch??

    Question: How much would $80 million have done for health? Education? Safety?

    Well, the savings are nowhere ...Terry Collins -- 18/05/02

    Well, the savings are nowhere near $19M as bulk buyers pay nowhere near retail price.

    They could save $90M by going Open Source software. I personally save $5Kpa by using it in my SOHO.

    We could always fire some teac ...Anonymous -- 18/05/02

    We could always fire some teachers, or health care staff etc. to pay for this!

    Its time for the treason tials...

    Politicans should be held more ...Anonymous -- 18/05/02

    Politicans should be held more accountable.

    The current system evidently leaves a lot to be desired.

    If the 80 million were spend on open source projects the need for future money burning would be drastically reduced.

    With open source you only spend money once and that is it. With closed source software you pay forever and ever.

    I object to my taxes been burned instead of been used for worthwhile causes/projects.

    Obviously some people have never heard of the term economics.

    Linux is free in terms of cost ...Gary Rufort -- 18/05/02

    Linux is free in terms of cost and in terms of development because it's based on Open Source software.
    We are free to adapt the work of others. This kind of freedom produces better software and makes open source software the right choice for agencies concerned with the ethical use of public funds.

    I would like to read a follow ...Anonymous -- 19/05/02

    I would like to read a follow up article on this matter.

    Perhaps the author could present the concerns of the readers to the Minister with a request for comment.

    > The Victorian Government ...Anonymous -- 19/05/02

    > The Victorian Government and Microsoft have hooked up to a four-year AU$80 million contract, that will see the software giant create a AU$5 million R&D fund to be thrown back into the area.

    Who benefits from the 5 million R&D fund, Microsoft or the Victorian Government?
    Of course MS will use this benefit as much as possible to the exclusion of every one else.

    The 80 million would have been better spend on local IT contractors to work on perceived or real short comings open source might have. This would help to eliminate the perpetual Microsoft tax (license fee), because once to open source code is written it will remain free in perpetuity, no annual payments.

    Sounds like the powers that be ...Tim Bowden -- 20/05/02

    Sounds like the powers that be just assumed there were no other options. Time for a new broom...
    Was ANY attempt made to test viable alternatives against the requirements? How many desktop users could use open office with very little cost? Probably most. How many systems would NEED to stay with MS products? Probably not all that many, especially if some of that money was spent on converting the more critical systems to a cheaper (free?) more stable platform.

    Still, there is plenty of money to go around. Hospitals aren't that short of funds. Imagine making a decision like this if our health system was in financial crisis?

    It is high time that the day d ...Anonymous -- 20/05/02

    It is high time that the day dreamers wake up.

    As long as there is a single un-employed IT professional looking for work, it is irresponsible to export jobs to other countries.

    Did the Victorian Government even look at alternatives?

    There is simply no way they did, or the decision to squander $80 million dollars is not above board...

    Whats needed is some courages journalist who is not afraid to ask some tough question.

    Why is this bad? To find out ...Anonymous -- 21/05/02

    Why is this bad?
    To find out read the article below.

    http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB

    Have the Victorian Government ...Joy -- 11/11/02

    Have the Victorian Government never heard of Linux?

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