IBM claims SCO conspiring with Microsoft over Linux

By Andrew Colley
30 July 2003 09:40 AM
Tags: linux, ibm, sco, colley, andrew, claim, conspire
IBM has accused Microsoft of conspiring with SCO in an attempt to derail Linux.

IBM eServer iSeries general manager sales Al Zollar, yesterday told delegates attending of the company's Asia Pacific Strategic Planning Conference in Queensland that was a -set of forces" that were attempting to stymie adoption of the open source operating system.

-They're mostly located in Redmond although they have recruited a few allies," said Zollar.

He then indicated that SCO -- which is currently making intellectual property claims over code contained in some versions of Linux and maneuvering to extract license fees from commercial of the operating system -- was part of the alliance.

The license claims were the latest of a series of events since SCO and IBM became embroiled in a high-profile legal dispute over the code. SCO claims that it has intellectual property rights over portions of code that IBM, among other companies, misappropriated and added to Linux source. It alleges that the code was lifted directly from a version of Unix System V, over which it is has claimed copyright.

IBM did not take the opportunity to elaborate on Zollar's statement about the alleged relationship between the two companies.

Some industry observers and open source proponents claim that SCO's legal dispute is a deliberate move to create uncertainty over the intellectual property rights of collaboratively developed software applications.

IBM has made clear its belief in the importance of Linux to its customer offerings and server strategy.

IBM yesterday said that it had witnessed 600 percent growth in the deployment of Linux in its iSeries mid-range server platform throughout the Asia Pacific. However the company added that the operating system was not yet being used for core applications.

Zollar said Linux progress in the enterprise space was unstoppable and he described SCO's claims as -silly".

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Talkback 15 comments

    I doubt Mr Zoller will keep hi ...Anonymous -- 30/07/03

    I doubt Mr Zoller will keep his job for long. IBM certainly will not appreciate the type of publicity this guy's conspiracy theory will generate. He may well have made his company the target of a defamation suit, should Microsoft be sufficiently annoyed by his fanciful claims.

    Mr. Zoller is a very fine fell ...Bhanga Buwhanah -- 30/07/03

    Mr. Zoller is a very fine fellow indeed. He will be making us all very happy. He at least does not try to rob my country of our senses and our pride. We support his very valiant efforts to speak the truth. I doubt seriously that any fellows from America who wanted to devastate our country by hurting our development would be so welcome in my country. We do not tolerate such imperialism so well.

    Chop Suey! MS wanna bag the c ...Anonymous -- 30/07/03

    Chop Suey! MS wanna bag the crap out of Linux and do a Netscape job by taking them through the courts as it """DIRECTLY""" interferes with the amount of money their shareholders will be paid!

    SCO (never heard of them until a few weeks ago :)) had HEAPS of time in the 90's to do something, but NOOOOO; they wait like those stinking vultures until IBM rolls out a few million servers, before crying that there "could" be some code theft!

    The Republic, Redux. A discour ...Anonymous -- 30/07/03

    The Republic, Redux.

    A discourse between Socrates and Plato on this very issue has just surfaced:

    Socrates: "hmm, let us muse on who has the most to lose by a surging interest in Linux.'

    Plato: "Well, there's Microsoft for starters."

    Socrates: "hmm, have Microsoft done any deals with SCO since this fiasco began, to finance SCO?'

    Plato: "Well, look they have!"

    Socrates: "Is there any reason to believe that Microsoft had to choose this point in time to conduct this deal with SCO?"

    Plato: "No."

    Socrates: "Are there any other reasons to believe that Microsoft conducted this deal with SCO here and now outside the point that it had a chance to damage Linux?"

    Plato: "No."

    Socrates: "Is there any reason to believe that Microsoft's deal with SCO increased SCO's attack power against Linux."

    Plato: "Yes."

    Socrates: "ipso facto, the only logical conclusion is that Microsoft assisted SCO in this attack against Linux, which has been shown the have failed miserably. Microsoft drew upon its biggest Ace, that of concerns on licence and IP issues for Linux, tried to create an action-at-a-distance by proxying this attack from another company, namely SCO, and look, not a even dint on Linux. Microsoft must be displeased. So, Plato, tell me more about this concept of yours which discusses Shadows and Caves."

    Plato: "well..."

    Mr Zoller and his job: well, h ...Anonymous -- 30/07/03

    Mr Zoller and his job: well, he was pretty much stating the facts - Microsoft and SCO are openly against the Open Source movement; this is obvious from just listening to people like Steve Ballmer. So I can't see any justifiable legal action being taken against him or his employer, although questionable legal manoeuvres do seem to be the tool of choice for dodgy outfits like SCO.

    - about 6 months before SCO st ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    - about 6 months before SCO started the junk, MS had a survey among companies asking what may be the strongest reason that will stop adoption of Linux in enterprises.
    The No. 1 answer was "potential legal liability if Linux have IP infrigements".
    - Windows 2003 server was lunched exactly when SCO
    started to black-mail Fortune 1500 companies.
    - MS was in extremelly hurry to pay SCO for his unproven IP claims.

    Is there anybody who can really belive that all these corelations are "by accident"?

    Ive got Got Caldera Linux 2.4, ...SCO X HATER -- 31/07/03

    Ive got Got Caldera Linux 2.4, boxed software, and downloaded ISO's. This was before Caldera and SCO merged. has 2.4 kernel I think. So, Seems that caldera was guilty of whatever IP violations that SCO now claims IBM and Linux users in general to be in so called violation of. Of course SCO elitists have not been specific enough in public for any of their whines and bitches to be credible anyway.

    I'll keep my redhat cd's but think the caldera is going in the trash for Linux treason.

    Deja vu. Caldera was a real su ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    Deja vu. Caldera was a real supporter of Linux and opensource, until Microsoft put money into the company. So SCO buys Caldera, and Microsoft puts money into SCO. It's the same guys.

    It's about time someone finall ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    It's about time someone finally said that publicly! Thank you IBM!

    Please let us continue to grow ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    Please let us continue to grow our market (Linux) in peace as there is more than enough space for us all to grow.
    "Techno-cratical" music chairs has, and never will work, and history has proven it!
    To dampen the opensource "spirit" is an offence to human ingenuety and a free and just society.
    Concerned Admin

    I've never used any Linux dist ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    I've never used any Linux distribution but I think I will now. I surely will never buy anything from SCO regardless of the outcome of any legal action against the Linux community.

    Personally I'd like to know HO ...Anonymous -- 31/07/03

    Personally I'd like to know HOW THE HELL you can tell who wrote said code (the code SCO claims is stolen) first (i.e. was it SCO or Linux)??? because I'd certainly think that it would be a whole lot easier for SCO to have lifted it from Linux (considering that I can freely and legally download ALL the linux sources off the web) than the other way, how did the linux community get hold of the code in the first place???
    Morgan

    Just to correct an earlier sta ...Anonymous -- 01/08/03

    Just to correct an earlier statement, Caldera bought SCO, not the other way around.

    As to Zollar losing his job, it isn't likely, but possible I guess. You don't see presidents of companies fired often, and certainly not for small statements they make.

    For Poopy Udda and all: Poopy, ...Anonymous -- 02/08/03

    For Poopy Udda and all:

    Poopy, you stated that SCO wasn't doing much in the 1990's. Well, yes and no. Check out what SCO's relatively new CEO, Darl McBride was up to in the 90's.

    The short of it: making money from litigation.

    Copy and paste this Forbes.com link for a good article on SCO, McBride and SCO's umbrella company, The Canopy Group from June 18th of this year. A snakepit, IMUO.

    IBM is merely the latest company on the SCO litigation barby.

    Go here or Google Forbes.com:
    http://www.forbes.com/2003/06/18/cz_dl_0618linux.html

    Rob Little.... we are actually ...Anonymous -- 05/08/03

    Rob Little.... we are actually talking about the same thing!

    I am referring to "not much" as in out of scene until all these big wig corporations use Linux, then whammo!

    Reminds me of ****** (maybe it wasn't - better put that in incase I get sooooed :-)) was free to use, but there was a clause hidden somewhere that after X years you must pay $X of dollars for it! The program was taken up by big business, unawares they owed gaziliions of $'s. The company was never really heard of until the started making chinese takeway - particularly CHOP SUEY!!!!!

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