Harradine steps into R-game debate

By Andrew Colley
22 March 2002 04:04 PM

Senator Brian Harradine has moved to stop the introduction of a Restricted (or 'R') classification for computer games.

Harradine, Independent Senator for Tasmania, yesterday tried to undermine the findings of the Office of Film and Literature Classification's (OFLC) public consultation process, undertaken as a part of a review of its classification guidelines.

Dr. Jeffrey Brand, who was appointed the task of assessing submissions from members of the gaming, media and religious groups, recommended that the government simplify game classification guidelines by making them consistent with those for film. He proposed that M and MA 15+ categories be replaced by a G13+ rating to make way for the R category.

Senator Harradine said the terms of reference underpinning the Brand's assessment were "too narrow" and shouldn't form the basis of "the general policy that should be adopted by the government".

In addition to attacking the validity of the assessment, he asked fellow Senator Chris Ellison to outline the government's attitude to the proposal.

"Because of the interactive nature of these games, won't they enable the person operating the game to in effect control the violent activities of realistic human characters on screen?" he asked.

Ellison disputed Senator Harradine's criticism of the consultation process.

"My brief advises me that there were 372 submissions to the made to Dr. Brand. Nonetheless, I will convey Senator Harradine's concerns to the Attorney-General," said Ellison.

The OFLC has been in a process of reviewing its classification guidelines since August 2001. The introduction of the adult category would lift restrictions banning the sale games that contain material that could only be viewed by adults if depicted in cinemas.

Senator Harradine is concerned that the new rating system will increase childrens' exposure to violent and pornographic material.

"There are some concerns out in the community about the introduction of the new classification," said a spokesperson for Senator Harradine. "It means that some of these games will be able to fall into the hands of children."

Ellison summed up the problem faced by the OFLC. He said that a single CD might contain both a computer game and film "yet there are two different classification systems".

At the heart of the dispute the Brand report notes a conflict between adults' freedom to consume material they wish versus the need to protect children from material that may harm them.

Advocates of the adult game rating contested assumptions that gamers are predominantly children. They presented research suggesting the average age of computer game players is 22 years old.

The OFLC will refine its assessment process and present a revised set of guidelines to ministers in mid-2002.

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Talkback 11 comments

    I have two major problems with ...Anonymous -- 22/03/02

    I have two major problems with Mr Harradine's comments;
    Firstly, Game classification is designed so young'uns can't get access to MA, & R rated material, its a protection scheme so retailers can prevent unsuitable material getting to the wrong hands. It sure beats havng games banned.
    Secondly, I have seen much much much more graphic material on videos. Hannibal for example. Or American Psycho. These movies don't make me want to go out and kill people. Does Mr Harradine even know what a computer is? I think he's just against it because he has to stick his 2c in. I for one am sick of his meddling...

    One.....games are interactive ...Chewbaka -- 22/03/02

    One.....games are interactive and you can manipulate situations , therefore violence is not usually something you view as part of a storyline which is sometimes essential to a plot where you witness as a viewer and not a player.

    Just because one group chooses to allow movies (or other things for that matter) to be seen either wrongly or rightly , it doesn't mean all groups which are made up of different people have to pick up where others left off or fail to act within the spirit or the boundaries of the guidelines when others have chosen to take a different path.

    If one group chooses to go one way , other groups/departments/bodies etc can choose to go another way or whatever way they choose with their own ideals as the basis for their decisions ...consultation and letter of the law too.

    In short , because one thinks I shall allow this , others may feel it was too much/little and do what they feel is appropriate themselves.

    I think that an R rating is es ...Anonymous -- 22/03/02

    I think that an R rating is essential for games. I don't agree that allowing R rated games in Australia will allow children to get their hands on them. Most shops will be ethical enough not to sell to underage gamers, and those that want them badly enough will probably find a way anyway.

    As for allowing players to control the violence in the game, I find this a weak argument. In film, you are being forced to watch a prescribed level of violence, which may be more disturbing than controlling the violence which allows you to choose (in some games at least) your own approach to how violent you will be. I also believe that allowing people to control violent characters and weapons cannot make them violent in life, unless they are already inclined that way. No one will go out and shoot someone based on a game they've played unless they were a bit ill in the head beforehand, in which case, playing the game would probably had a negligible effect.

    However possibly one of the most important reason to allow an R rated game is that by banning the sale of games which dont fit the current ratings, they are taking sales away from the Australian economy. If you want a game that badly, you could probably mail order it from the states at a minimal price increase. This is particularly relevant if the number of R rated games increases, and the lost revenue becomes more significant.

    At least we don't live in Germany.

    The taking sales away from Aus ...Hugh -- 22/03/02

    The taking sales away from Australian retailer's excuse is used in many context's , and often has been no more plausable then than it is here now ; which is not very plausable at all based soley on sales.

    Regarding violence in games , I think you missed the point being made which was you partake in the violence to achieve a goal and progress towards the end of such games. With movies the part's which make you squimish can often be skipped and you still progress to the end of the movie if so desired (and can still comprehend the plot) , but often with some games you are required to interact in violence to progress further and therefore it's not something you view ...and is in fact a requirement of such games.

    As far as an R rating being used , as long as it's applied with due consideration and an accurate understanding of the game at hand.....with open-minded anaylisis of the plot , with careful use of the R rating and not just a blanket R for games including weapon's and say... more powerful seemingly well advanced overdone weaponry...I won't mind I guess.

    Sounds perfectly sensible to m ...Anonymous -- 23/03/02

    Sounds perfectly sensible to me.

    Some here seem to think that classifying material has some detrimental effect on sales or that titles will be banned. The fact that you have a classification system does not mean that some content will banned, simply that it will be classified.

    I find that perfectly reasonable. Also, the classification for all content should be aligned, there should be no distinction between movies, games, magazines or web sites.

    Cheers.

    The comments by Harradine - a ...Anonymous -- 24/03/02

    The comments by Harradine - a crusty old man who probably hasn't played a video game in his life - were to be expected, but I just hope that common sense prevails and an R rating is introduced in order for these types of games to be controlled. With all the vile garbage that is accesible to kids on the internet, it's laughable that games above an MA rating are banned. Harradine, you've had your say, now shutup and stop your "won't you think of the children" ranting.

    The government needs to get th ...Anonymous -- 25/03/02

    The government needs to get their head out of the sand. Putting an R-Rating will get the games out of the hands of children. Why is it any different to the ratings of movies?

    Adding an R-rating will also allow older gamers to enjoy the games being made for us. A recent example is Grand Theft Auto 3 which is an excellent game. If it was given an R-Rating we wouldn't have to have such a fuss.

    As stated by others. If someone wants a game bad they can import it. One less sale to our econemy.

    Grand Theft Auto 3 , isn't tha ...GTA 3 is lame -- 25/03/02

    Grand Theft Auto 3 , isn't that a game where you can have sex with a prostitute and then decide to beat her up and steal her money?

    Yeah , sounds charming , wonder why it was banned?

    If this is your kind of entertainment and you have a problem with these kinds of games finding their way onto a banned games list , I worry what will happen when you can't get your fix of said game.

    There seems to be an interesti ...Anonymous -- 25/03/02

    There seems to be an interesting trend here.

    Those that are against the R rating state that the "interactive nature" of games means that instead of passively watching (i.e. movies), people are now actively participating.

    They then go on to say that in many cicumstances the player is forced to watch a violent event.

    The very definition of "interactive" is that you get to choose an outcome or response.
    Just because you *can* go around killing prostitutes in GTA3, doesn't mean you have to.
    It takes a very sick mind to not know the difference between the real world and a digital construct.

    Senator Harridine is from Cath ...Dwight Walker -- 25/03/02

    Senator Harridine is from Catholic background. I'm from a Christian background (protestant). However I am sad when people from very conservative backgrounds kind of screw up the rest of the world. They seem to judge everyone else and not try and get out there and see what is happening. No number of laws will change people's wishes. They'd need to change on the inside to do that. To make our country very puritanical will destroy our chances on the world-stage. I hope Harridine gets voted out this time. Him and Alston have tried to control what happens on the Internet or gaming scene in Australia but have in effect destroyed innovation and small businesses by tying up everyone with laws and restrictions. We are the most over-governed country in the world. Let's push back and get rid of these self-righteous politicians! Vote them out!

    In response to "GTA 3 is ...Anonymous -- 25/03/02

    In response to "GTA 3 is lame", agreed, the aforementioned 'feature' of GTA 3 is quite sick, but you have to consider that both having sex with the prostitute (which looks ridiculous anyway, because all you see is the car shaking up and down with no sound or visual details at all) and then beating her up afterwards are in no way required to complete the game, and in fact serve no purpose at all. Because of the totally interactive nature of the gaming environment in GTA3, it does allow the gamer to do just about anything, so obviously people will carry out acts of wanton violence and destruction if they want to. Having said that, I think it was pretty tasteless to include that feature in the original version of the game because of the obvious message it sends out regarding violence against women.

    A final point: the introduction of an R18+ rating for video games is great if it allows adults to play games with adult content (which they have a right to do), but simply including high level violence, nudity and course language in a game doesn't automatically make it a great game, so if the game itself sucks then there's no point.

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