Beattie announces tech skills summit

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has flagged a national skills summit for the technology industry and called for a system of accreditation for workers who have not achieved a degree.

Speaking at an Australian Computer Society (ACS) seminar in Brisbane today, Beattie said the shortage of skilled workers was a national problem.

"Just about every industry these days...is highly dependent upon the services provided by the ICT sector.

"We've got to encourage more young people into an industry which, after all, is skilled, well paid and likely to continue to grow strongly," he said.

Brisbane will host a national summit in the first half of next year to address the skills challenge, according to a government statement.

"At a time when demand for ICT skills has rarely been higher, fewer young Australians are enrolling in such courses at university," he said.

Applications for University places in technology courses by Queensland's Year 12 students fell by 12 percent this year, said Beattie.

"We've also got to develop a system of accreditation for workers in the industry who don't have a university degree and whose skills are therefore not recognised through any common benchmark," he said.

In addressing the government's own skill requirements, Beattie announced Queensland Health would take up the ACS' new enterprise partner program on a limited trial basis.

The deal will see Queensland Health technology staff gain ACS membership, which provides access to professional development programs, online learning and the International Computer Driving Licence program.

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Talkback 17 comments

    Skills Shortage?? Anonymous -- 11/11/05 (in reply to #120123123)

    Huh??
    I have a university degree with 4 1/2 years experience. I have been looking for work in Toowoomba and Brisbane since September 2004. I am not aware of any shortage of people to fill vacancies. The shortage appears to be of vacancies for the people or of vision by hirers.

    RE: Anonymous -- 12/11/05 (in reply to #120123124)

    How about putting more details. Maybe you're looking for a company expecting an exorbitant and luxurious pay, or maybe your expectations are just unrealistic.

    There are jobs, most are OK for me. And I'm sure that they'll prefer more down to earth people than people who expect the company to bow down to them

    Skills shortage?? Anonymous -- 22/11/05 (in reply to #120123165)

    I'll take any development or testing related job. Grad salary is fine. I have spent thousands on training, Did I mention that I am 53?

    Skills shortage?? Anonymous -- 11/11/05

    This is the text of an e-mail I have sent to Mr. Beattie.

    I have 30 years I.T. experience, and I am sick to death of this so-called hysteria over "skills shortage".

    Some five years ago, having been unemployed for several months, I contacted your office after a similar article asking if I could apply for a position. The reply from your office stated I should contact such luminaries as seek and mycareer, and "send my resume".

    Utterly disgusted by this ridiculous reply, I went overseas for three years and worked in Ireland and the U.S.A. They don't have a "skills shortage" in Ireland because they recognise experience and the ability of people like myself who can pick up skills on the job.

    I returned to Australia two years ago due to family pressures, and was lucky to get a job here in Sydney, but Australia still has this asinine practice of demanding a 100% match on a laundry list of skills, and ignoring capable people like myself who are an 80 to 90% "match".

    Soft skills, like interpersonal skills, analysis and system design are all ignored; agents who don't know what the acronyms mean, and who weren't even thought of when I started in I.T., tell me I "can't do the job", and seem to think that once you've turned 40, you're an idiot.

    There is no skills shortage; just a rigid and inflexible employment process. Remove the "must have" buzzwords, allow people to learn on the job, and the whole skills shortage furphy will disappear.

    Skills Shortage Graham Harvey -- 12/11/05 (in reply to #120123134)

    I wrote the first comment on this topic. Expanding on the theme of blinkered vision by those doing the hirering. In the 250+ positions I have applied to and the 50+ agencies and businesses which may at some time have a suitable vacancy several had never heard of the University of New England Armidale. Only one has ever mentioned the MA Applied Linguistics which I began well before I was looking for employment and am continuing to do and that was due to her having a relative who lectured in it at a uni. I can guess that the others were scared to show ignorance as under grad degree and industry courses were mentioned.

    I think that part of the problem is that the 'professional hirers' are in their 20s and early 30s and have never been in any supervision or management role with people with a range of ages. This results in them being ignorant of the differences in attitudes and behaviours of people older than them and in taking excessive notice of all the ageist entertainment and popular culture material aimed at their age group against those of mine, 50+. These deficiencies of the 'professional hirers' blind them to the positives that come with age.

    Skills Shortage Graham Harvey -- 12/11/05 (in reply to #120123134)

    I wrote the first comment on this topic. Expanding on the theme of blinkered vision by those doing the hirering. In the 250+ positions I have applied to and the 50+ agencies and businesses which may at some time have a suitable vacancy several had never heard of the University of New England Armidale. Only one has ever mentioned the MA Applied Linguistics which I began well before I was looking for employment and am continuing to do and that was due to her having a relative who lectured in it at a uni. I can guess that the others were scared to show ignorance as under grad degree and industry courses were mentioned.

    I think that part of the problem is that the 'professional hirers' are in their 20s and early 30s and have never been in any supervision or management role with people with a range of ages. This results in them being ignorant of the differences in attitudes and behaviours of people older than them and in taking excessive notice of all the ageist entertainment and popular culture material aimed at their age group against those of mine, 50+. These deficiencies of the 'professional hirers' blind them to the positives that come with age.

    Baby Boomers whining AGAIN !!!! Billy -- 14/11/05 (in reply to #120123164)

    peh...baby boomers..who needs 'em?, sucking resources out of the system ....

    I say we need to be more like the eskimos, once they're old and feeble they're a liability and left on the ice for the polar bears.

    So you're 50+ and can't get a job?..wow..gee...bet it wasn't like that in your baby boomer "oh, it's all supposed to drop in my lap" summer-of-love.

    Too bad....

    *..next!...*

    Billy the Kid TW -- 17/11/05 (in reply to #120123271)

    Hello Billy,

    I am thinking you should be nice to us Baby Boomers. We've been fixing your toys for you since you were dripping wet and we will continue to do so as long as we can.

    One day however we won't be here anymore and the stability, imagination and maturity that we bring to the table will be gone forever. When you are in charge then please recall as much as you can of what we've tried to teach you. With all the things you must keep track of these days I know how hard it will be for you and yours.

    BTW, please remember when you are laying turf that the green side goes up.

    bwahahahha x 2 Anonymous -- 21/11/05 (in reply to #120123411)

    Well chump, don't let me keep you from your taxi job, after all, works hard to get these days for the old and feeble, isn't it?
    Gen X is rising, even though the numbers favour the aging Boomers the real power lies with the X'ers as in the next 5-15 years WE'LL HAVE ALL THE FINANCIAL CLOUT !
    So, enjoy it while it lasts bozo, when you're eating catfood out of a tin and realising there's no pension, your super is worthless and you're up to your eyeballs in debt due to ridiculous mortgages you've taken out to try and finance your champagne and caviar retirement lifestyle I'll spare you a thought.

    No money or taxes, but a thought. If you're relying on us to pamper you into your dotage you're fresh out of luck, we NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF IT! Lets see how quickly we can vote in a few Means Tests for expensive geriatric medical care now, shall we?

    Baby Boomers Graham Harvey -- 22/11/05 (in reply to #120123271)

    Agency people are ageist from the top down. Last night on Seven network's "Dragons Den" I saw and heard Sarinna Russo of employment agency infamey treating a man in his 50s in a negative, patronising, ageist manner. This was very different to her attitude to younger interviewees.

    I don't think that's the case. Anonymous -- 22/11/05 (in reply to #120123164)

    I suspect the "professional hirers" aren't being 'ageist' per se, they're just aware that old Boomers don't have much to offer except a poor work ethos, an attitude that somehow the world owes them and a culture of slackness in both their personal and business affairs.

    Put simply, they're obselete.

    Nothing personal of course!

    Premier's reply. Steven -- 20/11/05 (in reply to #120123134)

    How about that? I've actually received a reply from the Premier's Department acknowledging that they've received my e-mail and will reply "in due course".

    BTW, Billy, if you could read properly, you'd understand that I have a job now and I had a job then. Because you need it spelt out to you, the difference is the Irish don't complain about "skills shortages", they employ experience.

    And I'm not 50 yet.

    The Premiers reply translated. Anonymous -- 21/11/05 (in reply to #120123547)

    Dear blah blah

    Thank you for your recent whiny correspondance about how suddenly everything is all bad and if things don't smarten up you'll go home and take your ball and bat with you.

    While, of course, no-one here cares as we are also self absorbed, lazy, incompetant Boomer public servants we do feel that in order to get back to sitting around for most of the day chatting and complaining about our bad backs and Workcover we'll need to address a short fob-off letter to you.

    Anyway, here goes....
    You don't say?, really?..wow!..that's just too bad..uhuh...mmmm..hmmm hmmm....Oh, I know!...yes, I understand entirely.....

    Ok, well, lovely chatting to you but it's now 3:34pm so that means it's time for more coffee, chat and sitting about until knock-off time, those clouds aren't going to watch themselves you know!

    Sincerely,
    Premiers Dept.

    Skills Shortage Marilyn Weate -- 16/11/05

    Reply to 'Billy'

    As a 50 + jobseeker who has been an employee, an
    employerand a manager several times, who did NOT
    come from a priveleged background, who went through high school at a private school and a BSc from Uni Syd on academic scholarships, I can only come to the conclusion that

    a) Billy is an idiot
    b) Is deliberately provoking debate
    c) or both. But most likely a).

    MazInOz

    Read some history kid Graham Harvey -- 22/11/05 (in reply to #120123583)

    When I finished high school in 1970 attending uni meant either a scholarship or full fees upfront. So I had a differnt career for more than 25 years. I did my uni on HECS in the late 90s. Like the previous writer I also have been a supervisor, manager and business owner & employer.

    Get Real Ian McDermid -- 23/11/05 (in reply to #120123583)

    You have got to be joking surely..I could out program, out network and out IT you any day, and I am 59. But I am sure that you would not accept the challenge, and carry on with VB6 thinking you are a gun programmer.

    Its not about Babyboomers vs Gen X Anonymous -- 25/11/05

    The story is about skill shortage.

    The "Babyboomer" techies and the GenX techies are in the same boat!

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