Aust music pirates sentenced

Three students convicted of copyright infringing acts associated with the Web site MP3 WMA Land have escaped jail time, the magistrate instead handing down suspended sentences and community service orders.

Charles Ng and Peter Tran were each sentenced to 18 months imprisonment, suspended for three years on a AU$1,000 good behaviour bond. Deputy chief magistrate Graeme Henson told a packed court room at the Downing Centre Local Court in Sydney this afternoon that the lack of monetary gain by the defendants, the youthfulness of the accused and the early plea of guilty were factors in suspending the custodial sentence.

The counsel for Ng, Chris Levingston, earlier told the court that Ng's crime was "committed in plain sight". "This is a crime which is extremely common, relatively hard to detect, and with substantial penalties for people who engage in this activity," said Levingston. "Mr Ng was a scavenger, he was not a person who set out to break the back of the music industry."

Ng was contrite, and eager to recommend to people considering activities similar to his to refrain from doing so, said Levingston.

The counsel for Tran, Michael Burke of Marsdens Law Group, earlier told the court there were strong prospects for rehabilitation, and emphasis should be placed on that. Burke also pointed out that Tran is 19 years old, and was legally a minor when the illegal activity began two years ago. "This was no exercise to gain profit from the music industry," said Burke.

Tommy Le, who had created compilation albums and distributed them on the MP3 WMA Land Web site - and for whom the Commonwealth Department of Public Prosecution (CDPP) had not sought a custodial sentence - was sentenced to 200 hours community service. For aiding and abetting him in this Ng was also sentenced to 200 hours community service. Tran, who had entered a medical certificate indicating he was medically unfit for such service, was fined AU$5,000 and placed on a AU$1,000 good behaviour bond for three years.

Michael Speck, the general manager of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI) who submitted evidence to the CDPP, labelled the decisions "curious".

"The court portrayed copyright infringement as a most serious crime but then chose not to jail these men," Speck told ZDNet Australia  . "I wonder how much music you need to steal before you go to jail? Certainly if you'd gone into a shop and stolen this much music there'd be no question of jail."

Phil Tripp, managing partner of Immedia who yesterday released the results of a survey showing many in the music industry disagreed with the current copyright law, told ZDNet Australia   the sentence would not scare anyone.

"The seriousness of the crime is such that a suspended sentence is a slap in the face of the industry and a slap on the wrist for the defendants," said Tripp.

The solicitors representing the defendants believed deputy chief magistrate Henson considered all the aspects of the case when handing down his judgement. "The beauty of having a senior magistrate is that he did take everything into account," Burke told ZDNet Australia  . He said the sentence was severe enough to be a deterrent while being compassionate enough on a subjective level to the individuals involved.

In the judgement Henson referred to several cases in the US and UK where custodial sentences were handed down, although he pointed out that this was not the only way in which copyright infringing acts were dealt with. He also noted this case was different to those cited in that there was no monetary gain by the defendants.

Relations between MIPI and the CDPP turned frosty, with the music industry agency formally withdrawing its application for costs associated with the trial - in which it sought reimbursement for costs related to witness expenses and preparing documents such as statements - citing confusing messages from the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions (CDPP).

"This series of mixed and inconsistent messages received from the CDPP and the way and timing in which they were delivered, leave the victims with no reasonable alternative but to withdraw this application," said Speck in his affidavit on the issue.

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    "Charles Ng and Peter Tra ...Andre The Giant -- 18/11/03

    "Charles Ng and Peter Tran were each sentenced to 18 months imprisonment, suspended for three years on a AU$1,000 good behaviour bond"

    Next time guys just bash some poor elderly pensioner over the head and steal their pension cheque as you'll get a third of the punishment - unless of course that pensioner was related to someone like Michael Speck, the general manager of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI) who submitted evidence to the CDPP.

    Is it any wonder why more and more people see the legal system as an extension of big business for getting what they want?

    Considering the music "in ...Anonymous -- 18/11/03

    Considering the music "industry" has been ripping off performers and purchasers for years, I don't have much sympathy for them...

    New developments in sound recording technology will eventually make the concept of ownership of sound waves obsolete anyway. Image when anyone can attend any performance wearing micro-minaturised hi-fi recording gear. What is the music "industry" going to do then - strip search everyone?

    The sooner they go out of business permanently the better...

    Kind of hard to have sympathy ...Anonymous -- 19/11/03

    Kind of hard to have sympathy for an industry that has no regard for the rights or wishes of its consumers..notably Speck saying that home taping and creating compilation CDs from your own legally purchased music should remain a criminal act.

    If I like music, I will buy the CD. And if I like 1 or 2 songs from that CD I will include them on a compilation CD for listening to in the car or on the train. Or I will put them on my minidisc player for listening to in the same places. If I like the whole CD I will copy the cd for use in the car...and that way if my car is broken into, or the CD is scratched, I'm not down $30. There's still only the one copy of music being used at any one time - it's not like all my family and friends are concurrently using the same $30 worth of music.

    And Mr Speck, you can get stuffed.

    What a bunch of F*&%ING HY ...Anonymous -- 19/11/03

    What a bunch of F*&%ING HYPOCRITES !!!!

    As published by ZDNet yesterday, the majority of the music industry themselves have stolen computer programs and games and dont think it is wrong, yet will still chase and prosecute you if you do the same with music.....

    I say, its time for a change in the law, and touch luck to Speck and his mates, they have been ripping us off for too long.....

    I have to ask, would the peopl ...Craig Iedema -- 19/11/03

    I have to ask, would the people that download the $60 million of music, really spent that much money? I don't think so.

    What a joke, they broke the la ...Anonymous -- 19/11/03

    What a joke, they broke the law in a big way, they should of been nailed in a big way.

    Looks like most of you have a ...Mr Bean -- 19/11/03

    Looks like most of you have a big problem to udnerstand it properly.

    Whichever way we will take it, it's a theft!
    And these guys are convicted thieves.

    1. Music is (c) and anything recorded on any media is (c).

    2. Copying and broadcasting without the license is strictly prohibited.

    3. You have no rights to own any copies on any media of any (c) material, if you didn't purchased them or didn't get a license.

    4. You like music?

    You have: many radio stations and many TV station who are playing for you a lot of top music for your enjoyment. Advertisers are paying for your fun! That network is constatbtly monitoring what you would like to listen so they can play what you like.

    5. If you CAN afford to be so fussy, go for it and buy a CD and listen to it until you will get green and blue on your face.

    6. Expensive? Who you are to judge? Don't like it? Cost to much? Get cheaper CD's!!! If you can't afford to get the latest hit, wait few
    months and than you will be able to get it much cheaper. Be patient. It's a virtue. ;-P

    Bad songs on CD? Maybe you could do better, cheaper and put it into public domain! I would love to hear you stuff done on equipment worth $1000 and sounding better than in milion's $'s worth studios and top engeeneers.

    It's not a difference at all between software or music. If MS will agree for all of us to copy their software via Kazaa or other channels, than maybe RIAA will agree to let kids to copy their music. Don't hold your breath. It will never
    happened.

    Any complains about costs of Microsoft CD's? To expensive? They are to greedy? Maybe so.

    Music is not public domain and you have no right to it unless you have paid a license to use it for your own private usage. Because to play or
    broadcast you will have to acquire a license as radio stations have to do and pay every months
    a lot of money to play publicly their music.

    Advertisers are paying for their advertisement and that's how money are made by radio stations.

    It's pity that R.I.A.A. don't care to much to explain to the public that they simply are trying to stop stealing their investments and their artists.

    But that's another story. ;-D

    Rubbish. Music is just sound - ...Anonymous -- 19/11/03

    Rubbish. Music is just sound - no-one owns it, it's just an illusion.

    The sooner the music "industry" goes bust the better. I'll be dancing on its "grave"...

    Jail time for Music Industry.. ...Michael Guilfoyle -- 21/11/03

    Jail time for Music Industry...

    I wonder if the people who fake the charts get jail time for fraud? No never.?

    I wonder if the people who fix prices get jail time?

    I wonder if the people who push up prices and rip consumers off and screw muscians get jail time?

    Yeah... the world still has a long way to go.

    I don't think we should rush i ...Anonymous -- 21/11/03

    I don't think we should rush in and criticise the courts decision without a full knowledge of sentencing principles and the facts of the case.

    The problem is that the ordinary observer in these proceedings will not be aware of sentencing principles and relevant facts on sentencing as it doesn't make 'good news', and therefore a balanced opinion on the issue is impossible.

    The people of Australia are being informed by a media concentrating on what they think we want to hear, instead of the facts.

    During my work on this case I developed a level of disrespect for the media. Very few in the media were prepared to stand up to Michael Speck and his sometimes outrageous comments. One day I would read the paper and they would say $60 million, and then $200 million the next. My personal favourite was an article appearing in the Australian after we defeated MIPI's application to prosecute. One genius of a reporter decided that the sentencing must have been complete and therefore titled the article "Music Pirates get slap on the wrist" (or something like that - I threw that one in the bin). I have to ask - was that writer even there?

    Well I wish I had all day to talk on this issue. I will say I am disappointed in the weight that was put behind this case to ensure that a couple of teenagers were sent to prison. As a regular visitor to our jail system I can assure you that this was not the place for those boys. The main thing is we kept them out and they are at home with their families.

    I discourage anyone from participating in this type of activity. The music industry has shown its hand, it is prepared to do anything to protect its millions. I believe that if anyone has a concern with the conduct of the music industry in this case then they should voice their concerns in a written protest to the music industry.

    Well, one thing that should be ...Anonymous -- 22/11/03

    Well, one thing that should be said is that they actually didnt gain any monetary benefit from it! so considering such a situation, the sentence was fair enough. Although it was the wrong thing, the facts must be considered. All cases must be treated differently. Obviously if monetary benefit was being gained a harsh penalty should apply.

    Speck, why don't you get your ...Anonymous -- 25/11/03

    Speck, why don't you get your facts right, there never was any deal between the DPP and the students, you just made that up becuase you wondered why the DPP was only interested in the facts.

    Good on the lads, i always hol ...Chris Somebody -- 04/12/03

    Good on the lads, i always hold admiration for folks akin to robin hood et al. Maybe if record company execs and musicians weren't multi-millionaires i would have a better understanding of thier dummy fits. But currently i don't and i'm glad the judiciary system has some sense too. I'm sick of a society that is all greed.

    I think it's kinda "funny ...Anonymous -- 08/12/03

    I think it's kinda "funny" how the big boys carry on about piracy, when Sony makes cd and dvd drives that support digital extraction of music then jump up and down when people use it. Also Microsoft now incorporates digital music copying and burning as part of Mediaplayer, WHY? then whinge about piracy of their products while providing the means to pirate music! If the Big Corporations wanna take anyone to the courts it should be each other!!!

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