Windows 7 beta: We like it

commentary Windows 7 will be one of Microsoft's greatest operating systems, if it fulfils the promise shown by the unofficial beta version (build 7000) we have been testing for the past couple of days.

(Credit: Renai LeMay/ZDNet.com.au)

Let me preface these quick impressions of Redmond's latest opus by saying that I came to Windows 7 after having happily run the much-maligned Windows Vista on my Intel Core 2 Duo-based PC for the past 18 months (alongside Ubuntu).

I found Vista to be a worthy upgrade from Windows XP SP2. Despite its obvious flaws (can you say "resource hog"?) and acknowledging that some of its features need to be disabled by default, Vista at heart is a much more stable and usable operating system than XP, which was first released back in 2001.

The release of Service Pack 1 and gradual driver improvements have built on Microsoft's somewhat shaky Vista beginning.

Coming from this background, I have been pleased to discover over the past several days that Microsoft appears to have built on Vista's strengths and addressed most of its weaknesses with the beta release of Windows 7.

Windows 7 beta was a painless install. Out of the box driver support on our test machine was perfect, and it only took half an hour and two quick reboots to begin running a stable desktop environment, although we wondered why Windows 7 created a 200MB partition in addition to its main partition. The 33MB of updates quickly came down the pipe upon loading the desktop.

Basic desktop performance was strong; the reports that Windows 7 is simply faster than Vista appear to be true. Certainly Windows 7 had no problem simultaneously installing and launching applications, downloading files, web browsing and carrying out other tasks on our modest 2.8GHz Pentium 4, which only has an 80GB IDE hard disk and 512MB of RAM.

Vista's most visible annoyance, User Account Control, has been pared right back on its default setting, and we only encountered it a couple of times throughout a whole morning of installing applications. However, if you feel nostalgic for UAC's old behaviour, you can easily change it back via Windows 7's new Action Center, which now centralises all of the security, update and warning alerts that Windows throws your way.

Windows 7 recommended we install a third-party antivirus package (it suggested Kaspersky and AVG), but its anti-spyware package Defender comes pre-installed. Microsoft appears to have an antivirus package installed under the hood; when downloading new software with Firefox we were told that our downloads were being scanned for viruses.

(Credit: Renai LeMay/ZDNet.com.au)

I particularly like the new photo-realistic device icons, and the overhaul of the way Windows handles and ejects USB storage devices. Microsoft appears to have wiped out a lot of the Windows XP-era interface quirks of Vista; the result is a much more simplistic, unified experience for common tasks.

I also enjoyed the overhaul of the Windows taskbar, especially the slick graphics, but a bug prevented us from being able to use the preview function (it showed a black rectangle instead), and you'll want to play with the taskbar settings to get this piece of the Windows 7 puzzle just right. It's easy to get minimised windows mixed up with launcher buttons, for example.

I want to stress that we didn't test Windows 7 beta exhaustively, and business users will need to closely examine deployment software and how the operating system integrates into their existing environments, as well as its ability to work well with third-party software. For example, we couldn't get Adobe CS3 to install on Windows 7 beta; the installer told us we needed to quit Internet Explorer first.

But perhaps the most important thing to note about the software is that at first glance it has much more of that nebulous "Windows XP feel" than Vista ever did. Even on our modest machine, Windows 7 didn't thrash the hard disk or feel unresponsive, except when we were installing Apple's iTunes, a notorious pain on Windows systems.

In general, this signals that Microsoft has spent a lot of effort with Windows 7 on delivering a solid operating system that won't "wow" anyone, but will satisfy them on a much deeper level. In other words, just what the doctor, and the customers, ordered.

You can find a lot of further Windows 7 analysis on the ZDNet.com blog of Adrian Kingsley-Hughes, as well as our own photo gallery here.

What do you think about Windows 7 so far? Love it or hate it? Are you still using Windows XP, or have you switched to a Mac or Linux?

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Talkback 31 comments

    DRM? Anonymous -- 07/01/09

    Renai, Is Windows 7 Beta faster because the DRM is not yet fitted?

    DRM Renai LeMay -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120494)

    I don't know ... but with Apple dumping it maybe Microsoft will follow!

    Cheers,

    Renai LeMay
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Anon - DRM? Anonymous -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120494)

    DRM support is already in Win7. DRM is REQUIRED by American LAW.

    Microsoft, Apple, et all MUST LEGALLY support DRM.

    There are no if's or but's to this or they would be in court with the RIAA suing them for all the money they have.

    DRM does NOTHING to slow down the OS. If you believe otherwise you have obviously have a very weak mind that is swayed by simple anti-DRM marketing.

    READ and COMPREHEND about DRM yourself before just believing everything you read.

    Wrong. 3vi1 -- 23/01/09 (in reply to #320120658)

    DRM is not required to be part of an OS by any law in the U.S. I defy you to cite a law stating otherwise.

    You're obviously a troll that wants everyone to think Linux is illegal. There are numerous OSs that have no intrinsic support at all for DRM. Quit giving advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

    OBTW... Anonymous -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120494)

    The reason Win7 is faster than Vista (and WinXP) on the same hardware is due to a HEAP of work that Microsoft has been doing on all the entirely new sub-systems that were introduced with Vista.

    These updates were REQUIRED to move on from the utterly useless systems in WinXP.

    We've lived with these useless graphics and audio sub-systems, no process security and no protection systems (just to name three) for a horrible nine years... allowing for worms, trojans and viruses to take hold thus requiring anti-virus software that slows everything down.

    Before anyone says anything... NONE of these systems could have been jury-rigged into WinXP. They required major rewriting of numerous areas of the code to support... thus resulting in a new OS... called Vista.

    Virtual Machine Anonymous -- 08/01/09

    I think a key problem that windows 7 will solve is the issue that windows vista runs extremely slow under a virtual machine.

    VM Renai LeMay -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120517)

    Interesting issue ... Windows 7 seems to run quite nicely in the VMWare installation I have on my Core 2 Duo here... but that could just be the speed of my CPU as Vista also runs nicely on it ;)

    Cheers,

    Renai

    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    This explains it... Anonymous -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120537)

    Renai, were your Win7 'tests' run within VMWare? If yes, this explains your 'black boxes' for the preview windows.

    VMWare doesn't support the required graphics level to support full Aero.

    VMWare Renai LeMay -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120659)

    I ran Windows 7 both within VMWare and on dedicated Pentium 4 hardware. It had an AGP graphics card.

    Cheers,

    Renai
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Wait Anonymous -- 08/01/09

    Renai, Vista a solid operating system? The design and execution is just woeful (and this is best reflected by the market reaction).
    As for Windows 7, wait until it is released before saying this thing works well....Microsoft always has disappointments, caveats, restrictions and calamities ready to roll just to keep things interesting!

    Vista Renai LeMay -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120521)

    hey there,

    Actually, most CIOs and IT managers I have talked to about Vista say that it is quite a good operating system ... but there has just been no real solid advantage to upgrading, when you consider that XP works fine for most people, and migration costs at any company for a desktop SOE are astronomical.

    However I agree with you -- it will be interesting to see how Windows 7 actually stacks up at launch. A beta is only a beta.

    Cheers,

    Renai

    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Vista Anonymous -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120541)

    Hi Renai,

    Arn't they diplomatic!

    and aren't you out of touch with the real world! Anonymous -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120556)

    Believe it or not... with over 15 million Vista licenses being sold PER MONTH, Vista is actually a good selling product for Microsoft.

    WinXP was selling approximately 20 million per month at this point in time of its release as well.

    Vista selling..yea sure Anonymous -- 22/09/09 (in reply to #320120660)

    counting sales from the channel isn't accurate. I know of 371 'Vista' sales that were not.. the systems were reverted to XPP. I wonder how many others are really converted XPP sales. On another note '7' is better but as in past 'betas' what is RTM has had an array of changes / ummm undocumented features from what was the beta

    Windows 7 is great Anonymous -- 08/01/09

    I setup Windows 7 beta on my laptop 3 days ago, replacing Vista Ultimate, im using 10 hours a day for my job, using multi monitors, citrix, web browsing.

    Overall, Its so impressive for a beta windows, the user experience is fantasic, moving around the OS is very fluid, with the new taskbar interface.

    Cool Renai LeMay -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120534)

    Glad to hear it! Did you have any problems with any third-party apps? This is usually where MS has a few problems ...

    Cheers,

    Renai LeMay

    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Applications run surprisingly well Anonymous -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120542)

    Here's a list of apps that are running well for me:
    Citrix XenApp Client
    Cisco VPN Client
    Windows Live messenger
    Office 2007 SP1
    Sophos AV
    VMWare Workstation 6.5
    Adobe Reader 9
    Acronis True Image Echo Workstation
    Steam
    Nero 7 Express
    Built in TV tuner works with media centre

    Issue's:
    built in audio drivers, terrible audio quality and problems with microphone.
    Webex Client dosen't work

    Besides the webex client, I'm able to perform all my work without any issue's so far!

    It's almost as if Vista was the beta for Windows 7

    Apps Renai LeMay -- 08/01/09 (in reply to #320120552)

    I am very glad that Steam is working for my own selfish reasons :) Have to keep up with my Crysis, Bioshock etc.

    The fact that VPN and VMWare stuff is working would seem to indicate a very high degree of compatibility with Vista apps.

    Renai
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Compatibility... Anonymous -- 09/01/09 (in reply to #320120559)

    This "level" of compatibility is mainly due to Microsoft using a version number of 6.1

    Which is just like they did with WinXP which had a version number of 5.1 while Win2k had a version number of 5.0.

    We are also two years into Vista's life, so the hardware manufacturers had finally caught up with the required driver model changes.

    VPN client? Anonymous -- 10/01/09 (in reply to #320120552)

    Which version are you running of the Cisco VPN Client? I've been running the Windows 7 beta for a few days, but might have to revert to Vista since I can't get my Cisco client 5.0.03.0560 to work. Whenever I try to connect it gives a reason 440, driver failure error message. Any ideas on how to fix? I need the VPN for work. I can still use my laptop obviously, but prefer to have my desktop.

    VPN Client Anonymous -- 12/01/09 (in reply to #320120714)

    I am also intrested in the client you are runing. I am unable to to get the client working with build 7000.

    Windows 7 K C -- 16/04/09 (in reply to #320120534)

    I can't find drivers for my printer and scanner when using vista. None out there! Will Window 7 take that problem away and I can use XP compatible drivers with window 7? I have HP photosmart 1215 printer and HP Scanjet 5200c scanner.

    VPN client Anonymous -- 12/01/09

    Does anybody know how to get VPN clcient to work on windows 7 beta?
    Unable to boot to windows 7 (beta) after installing Cisco VPN client.

    Cisco VPN client again.... Anonymous -- 13/01/09 (in reply to #320120798)

    Have to agree, blue screen after installing Cisco VPN client 5.0.03.0560. Anyone got a more up to date client?

    Cisco client martin -- 14/01/09 (in reply to #320120840)

    I also have the Bluescreen after installing the client. The version I have installed is 5.0.4.300 but same result. I would like to know from those who has it working, this piece of software is so far my only reason for not running windows 7 at my work to fully test it.

    I've contacted Cisco Renai LeMay -- 14/01/09 (in reply to #320120929)

    hi guys,

    I've contacted Cisco to ask if there is a fix for this. Will let you know when they get back to me. Until then, hold on! :)

    Cheers,

    Renai LeMay
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    Cisco Renai LeMay -- 16/01/09 (in reply to #320120964)

    Hi everyone, this is what Cisco said:

    "For Windows 7 compatibility, customers may leverage our newer Cisco AnyConnect VPN Client."

    Cheers,

    Renai LeMay
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    I feared that Martin -- 17/01/09 (in reply to #320121135)

    I am not suprised about that comment. Cisco is trying their best to force us to switch to anyconnect instead of the old cisco vpn client. To bad its hard to sell the new licenses to companies that already have a setup running perfectly. Only us "geeks" that are running 64bit and windows 7 wants to change to anyconnect.

    Thanks for the information Renai!

    Have a nice weekend

    Cisco VPN Client works under these conditions Fumatchu -- 23/01/09 (in reply to #320121169)

    You must be running 5.0.0.04. In addition, you must download the latest DNE from Citrix. Install the DNE first, DO NOT reboot; then Install Cisco VPN client (IPSEC) Version 5.0.04, DO NOT REBOOT, then run the MSI file for the DNE again, and select repair, then reboot.

    I am using the client over UDP, connecting to VPN 3K concentrator, PIX 506, 515E, and ASA running 7.2.

    Switch Iggy -- 11/04/09

    Windows 7 looks promising. Heard a few good reviews from my friends who tested the beta version. I just still couldn't get out of my head the disaster VISTA brought. I switched to MAC and NEVER regretted it. In fact, loving it more everyday. Will try windows 7 one day. Any idea about the release date?

    Window 7 - Windows Vista - Linux??? Anonymous -- 16/04/09

    I run Win7, since the first Beta was out and have the latest Beta, and it is as much of a hog using the same programs as was Vista, or RAM. It is also impossible to network with other computers in my office, I have 8 others, which include Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, Win7, Mac G4 and other Linux OS's of differing flavours on and off. I never had any trouble seeing them when I had XP installed.

    I really think that Microsoft needs to look at what Mac and Linux do with their OS's. Ultra stable, no virus attacks (not that they can't be sent, but it's harder), and those other OS's run on minimal RAM very well, only needing it when gaming heavily or using Graphics programs in multiples.

    No, sorry, but being someone who teaches Senior Computing, has been selling and using computers since the first Apple and DOS computers were around, and often called to fix Windows computers (never Macs nor Linux machines funny enough), then BAH HUMBUG to Windows XP, Vista and 7.

    smoky

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