Meet Google's culture czar

There's no question that Google is a trendsetter. The company made Web search sexy, and lucrative. It established the foundation for an ecosystem that allows any old little Web site to make money off advertising.

Stacy Savides Sullivan, chief culture officer, GoogleWith its lava lamps, simple doodle design, pampered employees and millionaires in its rank and file, it has become a cultural icon and an emblem of the gold-rush promise of the Web.

Google was ranked by Fortune magazine as the best place in the US to work, and it has reached another zenith by becoming the most popular Web site. It's even become a verb in the dictionary.

And it may even have started a new trend by creating a job that carries the title "chief culture officer." Stacy Savides Sullivan is that person at Google. (Editors' note: Google doesn't seem to be unique with that title, rare though it is. A quick Google search -- what else? -- turns up a handful of institutions that have, or once had, a chief culture officer, including IT services company Kanbay International and AegisLiving, an assisted-living program in Redmond, Wash.)

Sullivan's mission is simple: retain the company's unique culture and keep the Googlers happy. In an exclusive interview, she tells ZDNet Australia sister site CNET News.com how she does just that.

Q: How long have you had that title?
Sullivan: I've had that role since last summer, and in addition to being chief culture officer I'm also director of human resources.

What do you do as chief culture officer?
Sullivan: I work with employees around the world to figure out ways to maintain and enhance and develop our culture and how to keep the core values we had in the very beginning -- a flat organisation, a lack of hierarchy, a collaborative environment -- to keep these as we continue to grow and spread them and filtrate them into our new offices around the world.

We want all of our employees to play a part in being involved in keeping our culture the way it is today but also growing and developing it. So some of it is coming up with different programs or processes, and just being there to talk with people when they have issues, setting up Web sites where people can report bugs in their culture and ideas on how to improve it, and those types of thing.

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It's hard to imagine how you can keep a flat organisation with 12,000 employees. But what are the characteristics of the Google culture in general?
Sullivan: I would characterise the culture as one that is team-oriented, very collaborative and encouraging people to think nontraditionally, different from where they ever worked before -- working with integrity and for the good of the company and for the good of the world, which is tied to our overall mission of making information accessible to the world.

Who came up with the idea of having a Google chief culture officer?
Sullivan: It was something that [Google co-founders] Larry Page and Sergey Brin came up with last summer.

Do you know of any other chief culture officers?
Sullivan: No.

What are some of the challenges you are finding in your role, maybe related to the hyper growth of the company?
Sullivan: I think one of the hardest things to do is ensure that we are hiring people who possess the kind of traits that we're looking for in a Google-y employee. Google-y is defined as somebody who is fairly flexible, adaptable and not focusing on titles and hierarchy, and just gets stuff done.

So, we put a lot of focus in our hiring processes when we are interviewing to try to determine first and foremost does the person have the skill set and experience potential to do the job from a background standpoint in addition to academics and credentials. But also are they going to be good culture or team fits.

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Talkback 18 comments

    What a load of touchly feely cr*p. Anonymous -- 30/04/07

    Hmmm.....looks like Google sucks after all.

    Count me out.

    Cheers!

    I agree. Anonymous -- 30/04/07 (in reply to #320078636)

    Reading that interview made me throw up in my mouth.

    Jealous Anonymous -- 30/04/07 (in reply to #320078636)

    Catered lunches every day, free transportation (in some areas), reimbursement for some personal vehicles, ski trips, paternity leave, stock options, and a whole host of other benefits including health dental and vision. There is a reason Google was ranked number 1. Sounds to me like someone's jealous, maybe you just aren't good enough to work there?

    well... Anonymous -- 30/04/07 (in reply to #320078638)

    not everybody wants to work in a cult. imagine the politics, cliques, and infighting. do you really think you can have a start-up atmosphere at a large company?

    anyway, it's all a little disingenuous, isn't it--keeping a level structure, focusing on "career development", etc?

    so? Anonymous -- 01/05/07 (in reply to #320078642)

    Find me any organization that truly prevents infighting and polticization. Under what pretenses do they operate? How big are they (obviosuly an org of less than 50 people doesn't have many of these problems)? Google hires the best and the brightest from all over the world and it recognizes that it must focus on attracting and retaining top talent. Given the circumstances and environment that google operates in, i would not be suprised to find that 80% or more of value-adding (read: not custodians, secretaries, etc..) employees are smart enough to belong to Mensa. To develop an atmosphere where people like these feel challenged and motivated is no easy task, and they have apparently done a great job of it. Kudos to google

    What're you, stupid? Whatsizface -- 30/04/07 (in reply to #320078636)

    Oh no! A company that has a soft spot for its staff! Bad, bad Google.

    Show me another company with 12,000 employees that goes out of its way to keep them ALL happy.

    Oh ya. Where do you work?

    You're an idiot.

    Whatsizface

    Are you braindead? Anonymous -- 01/05/07 (in reply to #320078639)

    Oh no....a company that employes someone to make the appropriate noises about caring for staff etc etc...

    One day, when you're all grown up, you'll realise the difference between spin and reality.

    Untill then, shut your g*ddamn mouth and don't try to comment on things you know absolutely nothing about.

    Idiot.

    Very professional Anonymous -- 22/08/07 (in reply to #320078697)

    I think my 20 years in high-tech, managing some award winning product lines qualifies me as "grown up" and knowing "the difference between spin and reality".

    Some day when you start acting like a professional... oh wait. That will probably never happen.

    You're a waste of keystrokes.

    Jealous? Stupid? Only someone so naive could suggest that. Anonymous -- 10/05/07 (in reply to #320078639)

    Lunches, perks, et al cost bugger all - human dignity, a sense of self and privacy are worth everything. Having worked for one of the other San Jose-based internet giants I can confirm they certainly are cultish organisations run by nerdy, sociopaths that were very probably unpopular at school and are now using a HR-sponsored form of eugenics to create the perfect race to work in and run their businesses. Phew, glad that's off my chest.

    I wouldn't trade my soul for a few sandwiches and a dental check-up.

    L

    Re: What a load of touchly feely cr*p. Anonymous -- 30/04/07 (in reply to #320078636)

    Its OK. With an attitude like that you wouldn't work there anyway. :)

    It obviously doesn't work... Zentinal -- 01/05/07 (in reply to #320078636)

    <sarcasm>
    The Anonymous Coward is obviously correct. It must be terrible working for a company which is making money hand over fist, a company which works hard on retention, a company which seems to take the idea of the 'learning organization' seriously, a company which competes for employees as vigorously as it competes for customers.
    </sarcasm>

    At what cost? Anonymous -- 01/05/07

    And I wonder how many hours a week you're expected to work for all that. :)

    Work load Anonymous -- 01/05/07 (in reply to #320078660)

    Yeah, I'd love to know what's the average hours per week they do over there. I'd love to apply for a job at Google myself, but I'm really turned off by the idea of having to move to their offices.

    Hmm Anonymous -- 01/05/07

    Managing a company of 12,000 people that effectively is probably an insurmountable challenge, but it is very nice to think that someone has an ideal such as this that they are working towards. I don't understand why someone would label that effort 'crap'.

    Negative comments typical Steve Jay -- 02/05/07

    Fascinating read, and refreshing to see genuine industrial idealism at work. I suspect the comments posted so far are from the sort of miserable boss Australian industry is famous for, or from the sort of poor sack who works for those sort of clowns.

    The Google experiment may not wind up being any more effective than any other idealistic approach, but it just might, too, and they're to be applauded for putting stock into a happy, creative workforce.

    Stop....stop.... Anonymous -- 02/05/07 (in reply to #320078749)

    ...you're making me vomit into my mouth again....

    arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..................

    Tell Elvis I said Hi, ok ?

    How about a 30+ year old business example? Reenie -- 05/05/07

    Southwest Airlines not only has a chief Culture Officer (President Colleen Barrett) but a full-on Culture Committee! We've been managing the culture of SWA for over 30 years and 32,000+ Employees. All of this in what has been called the most-unionized airline in the business! Our Culture is the #1 reason we have survived as an airline (fuel costs notwithstanding) all this time, with a unbroken record of profitable quarters dating back to 1991.

    Where are the angry employees? Anonymous -- 31/05/07

    So you don't believe that Google is a great place to work? Then I ask you: Where are the tell-all articles and the leaked memos from dissatisfied employees? Because I can tell you from my experience working in automotive-- if your workers are disgruntled the news is going to know about it and your secrets are not safe. I just don't see that with this company.

    I think the problem is that too many of us have been raised in a cannibalistic version of the workplace and have only seen life one way: dog eat dog and greed rules the day. Who's to say that Google's hiring process doesn't focus on people that like to work for the sake of satisfaction? Sorry if you're jealous, but don't knock it until you know what the fck you're talking about. I think that personally, just knowing that they're making the effort is enough for me to jump at any chance they'd give me.

    In the end, I'd say their success speaks for itself. You can say that it's hooey all you want, but whatever they're doing, it's working.

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