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commentary Politicians are notoriously clueless when it comes to technology. Indeed, a Parliament House staffer has previously told ZDNet.com.au that it's impossible to overstate their level of ignorance. But isn't it time they caught up with the rest of us?

On 19 October, for example, during Senate Estimates [PDF], Queensland Liberal Senator Ian MacDonald kept wanting to understand the speed and pricing of the National Broadband Network in terms of "the use of a PC for normal email traffic" — clearly unaware that email is far from bandwidth-intensive.

In the same debate about the cost of the NBN, Shadow Communications Minister Nick Minchin, another Liberal, asked: "Again, remind me, with optical fibre, you have to attach a unit to the side of people's houses, do you not?"

There was even ignorance on both sides of politics about the ownership of Australia's second-largest telco, as this bizarre exchange shows:

Senator Conroy: Does anyone know whether [Optus parent company] SingTel is listed on the Australian Stock Exchange?

Senator Minchin: What?

Senator Conroy: Does anyone know whether SingTel is listed on the Australian Stock Exchange?

Senator Minchin: That is nonsensical, too. On that, I do not own shares so pardon my ignorance as to whether every company is listed on the stock exchange.

Senator Conroy: I do not own shares either.


Conroy is actually one of the more IT-savvy people in parliament, yet it doesn't seem to have occurred to him — or the other senators, or their staff — to use the laptops in front of them to find the answer. Which is "Yes", by the way.

Politicians are in general relatively new computer users. It's only four years since Jackie Kelly, the former Liberal MP for Lindsay, was the first person to use a laptop on the floor of Parliament House, Canberra.

"In fact, the then speaker kicked me out for it," she said in her valedictory speech. "I am glad we [now] see things differently and have equipped this House for laptop use in the chamber."

Britain's former Prime Minister Tony Blair didn't even own a mobile phone until the day he left office in June 2007.

"When I lived at Downing Street I never had one," Blair is reported as saying. "I sent an SMS to a friend, but given my lack of technological knowledge I didn't realise the telephone hadn't identified me as the sender. I got an SMS back saying: 'But sorry, who are you?'"

In the US, Barack Obama's thoroughly modern insistence on using a BlackBerry triggered security concerns — the first time a President had actually wanted his own email device.

Part of the problem seems to be that more traditional politicians actively ridicule those who choose to use information technology.

On 1 June, Liberal MP Barry Haase told parliament, "I am not one of those technophiles who carries a laptop everywhere." This is despite his electorate of Kalgoorlie covering some 2,295,354 square kilometres of Western Australia, requiring extensive travel.

Even South Australian Liberal Senator Simon Birmingham, just over half Haase's age, once chided Conroy, "I wonder if the minister could please be asked to table the laptop from which he was reading his ministerial statement."

As Conroy said in another Senate debate, "In an answer in the portfolio area of the Digital Economy, to be actually objecting to using a computer screen rather than a file and a piece of paper is a little bit embarrassing."

I'm not suggesting that politicians need to be programmers or systems administrators. As broadband minister, Senator Conroy no more needs to be able to debug Python or configure Exchange email routing than the defence minister needs to fly a jet fighter or even fire an assault rifle.

But politicians do need to know enough to make effective decisions about the issues they're discussing — and IT has been a core part of our society for decades now. Given that politics is about communication, sifting through vast amounts of documentation, and collaboratively creating policies, shouldn't politicians also commit to the same kinds of productivity improvement in their own jobs that they demand of everyone else?

Previously I've written that "I don't understand computers" is no longer an acceptable excuse for businessmen and suggested a checklist of the things managers should know.

Here's my first cut of a similar IT knowledge checklist for politicians.

  1. The structure of the telco industry, especially the difference between wholesale and retail providers in terms of who's responsible for support, fault rectification and billing. For Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull to ask of the NBN, "How many subscribers will it have", misses the difference between a wholesale and a retail network — despite him previously being one of the founders of ISP OzEmail. Yet I have yet to find a government member who realises they could have used that ignorance to score a political point.

  2. Units for measuring data and transmission speeds, such as gigabytes or megabits per second, without confusing bits and bytes, and how they equate to everyday tasks like streaming live video or making a Skype call. That's like knowing the difference between a million dollars and a billion, and how much real estate each could buy. Kevin Rudd's recent talk of "bandspeed" may have been just a slip of the tongue, but you don't make slips if you're familiar with the subject.

  3. The strengths, weaknesses, achievable speeds and cost implications of different connectivity methods such as ADSL, WiMax, FTTH, HFC, 3G and 4G — without having to know how they work, of course. That's like knowing the implications of diesel railways versus electric, or building a bridge versus a tunnel.

  4. The one-sentence meaning of common jargon, such as CRM, ERP, FTTH, phishing ... how far down should we drill?

  5. The broad development process of big IT projects, when it's impossible to say today what it'll cost to provide some specific component in four years' time.

  6. The meaning of open source and Creative Commons, and their implications.

  7. That the internet is not the web, and that it has uses beyond email, Facebook, downloading movies and watching porn.

Now all that said, I don't think we should call politicians "dumb" for not knowing this. It is complicated, and it does take an effort to learn. I'm just saying they should put in that effort.

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Talkback 14 comments

    you'd be surprised Anonymous -- 03/11/09

    at how much polies do actually know about everything else, from health, education, defence, environment...

    it is their advisors that often fail them...

    their advisors must <facepalm.gif> often though...

    Indeed, pollies do know other things... Stilgherrian -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390523)

    ... which is kind of my point. There are politicians who know trains, airlines, shipping, electricity, freeways, canals, hospital, education, law and almost every other aspect of our society's infrastructure. But here there's a huge gap. Why is that?

    Age Anonymous -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390571)

    That's easy - their expertise in other areas is typically derived from their working life, and if we assume that most pollies are in parliament 10 years before they become ministers, then that's where their experience stops. In 1999, the typical business experience of the internet WAS email.

    There's no real incentive to learn about the rest of the tech landscape unless it's your portfolio.

    Agree on all points but one. Mark Newton -- 03/11/09

    You had me absolutely 100% until the second-to-last sentence.

    Perhaps five years ago it was acceptable for politicians to not have at least a basic knowledge of computers and communications, but that ship has well and truly sailed now.

    A basic lesson that most of us learn very early on is that one shouldn't engage one's mouth if one's brain is in neutral. A technically-ignorant politician can't even contemplate talking about technology if they don't know the first thing about it, yet that's what we're confronted with day after day in a world where an increasing amount of political input is associated with things like NBNs and laptops-for-schools.

    When they prognosticate about things they know nothing about, they actually make everyone else dumber: Their bad information gets out into the public sphere where it is repeated and cast as the Conventional Wisdom, making it impossible to discuss accurate real-life facts. For example: how can you discuss the impact of the cost of international transmission on Australian Internet prices in a world where the politicians have everyone (wrongly) convinced that Telstra is the place where everyone else goes to buy International connectivity?

    Our leaders can't lead if they're behind. I think it's completely unacceptable that they're the last people in the room to understand the first thing about things the rest of us take for granted, and I'm well past the point where I feel bad about describing a technically-ignorant politician as "dumb."

    Policy, Purchasing and Anonymous -- 03/11/09

    I agree, Stilgherrian.

    Is it unnerving to ponder too long on the fact that the creation of the legislative framework, the appropriations of public moneys and the regulations of the industry are overseen by persons grappling with the key fundamentals.

    It is particularly unsettling to know that as it is currently, many politicians will be overly reliant on advice on others - others that identify opportunities for particularly effective duping... errr... I mean lobbying.

    Your IT check list for politicians could easily flower out into a fully fledged syllabus, forming the basis of a set of consultancy workshops down in Canberra, I would think. ;-)

    But... Stilgherrian -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390526)

    .... that would require going to Canberra. Erk. ;)

    Nothing wrong with Canberra (the city) Robert McKenzie -- 10/11/09 (in reply to #320390572)

    As someone who chooses to live in Canberra I find your comment somewhat offensive and on the same level of ignorance as you are charging the pollies with.

    Almost as bad as the constant Melbourne bashing from Sydney people.

    Yes, and No. Zaphod Beeblebroxs -- 04/11/09

    You're right, Politicians are confused when it comes to IT. And I use the word confused on purpose. They're confused because it's rare for an IT person to speak the same language as them. They're confused because when some sectors who advise the government on the subject of IT open their mouths, they are pushing their own agenda at them, not informing them of plain and simple facts.

    We all tend to see the world through the lenses of our own making.

    Couple of points though; In Senator Ian Macdonald's exchange on email, he was trying to score political pointss on the fact that "email is far from bandwidth-intensive" and that he would have had documents that showed most people use the net just for emails and low bandwidth applications. He was trying to score political points and say that the NBN was unnessary. The art of politics is subterfuge.

    Senator Minchin with "attach a unit to the side of people's houses" was trying to score points on the cost involved with the NBN FTTH rollout, which would involve a lot of labour, and that someone would have to pay for it. Once again, just political point scoring and of no value really.

    Senator Conroy's political point scoring with Senator Minchin was entirely so that he could say the punchline "Senator Conroy: I do not own shares either.". I mean if someone had looked it up, it would have totally ruined his moment :)

    As far as the discussions surrounding Senator Conroy's Laptop usage go, that's political point scoring by the Opposition. They seem to take great umbrage at the good Senator continually reading from prepared speeches (On a laptop in this case) when they ask him a question. Naturally the speeches don't work to... well, the "Spirit" of the Senate. The Opposition always sees Question Time as an opportunity to catch the Government off balance, and reading from a prepared speech kind of steals their thunder. So they make disparaging remarks such as, "He might as well just table the laptop and get on with it"....

    It's true. Politicians and indeed anyone in Senior management should have a better grounding in IT principles, but it's up to us to learn to speak their language and try to understand them better as well. Oh, and when they ask a question, we need to tell them the truth, even if it isn't palatable to us. After we've told them the truth, well, the rest is just Politics really :)

    Zaph.

    Ah, Politics! Stilgherrian -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390579)

    You're right about the political point-scoring. That whole cut-and-thrust of "debate" is such a waste of time and money IMO, and it's a shame that Senate estimates isn't used more effectively to improve government policy -- because there's certainly real issues to be explored there!

    An MP's view Penny Sharpe -- 04/11/09

    Ok Stil - I've read your checklist. If you were to give me a test I would score about 3/10.

    Point taken about needing to be across the detail - and your list is the starting point of some light summer reading.

    But - there is also the need to understand that MP's are asked to be across incredible amounts of detail. Often in areas that they have absolutely no experience in. They also have demands on their time that mean being across the detail of everything they are expected to be is actually impossible.

    Those that are Ministers have access to information and advice from departments and others.

    Backbenchers have themselves and their staff (usually one or two people) on top of the demands of being effective local members.

    Good information presented in a way that allows the MP to read it (preferably jargon and spin free), digest it, reflect, seek further information and ask the intelligent (and dumb) questions is what is needed.

    If your list had links to where the answers were - that met the readability factor - more informed debate and policy outcomes would have a better chance of becoming a reality.

    In the meantime - identify those MP's who should have an interest (ie those who have some direct decision making responsibility and/or are on committees dealing with ICT) and send them the stuff you think they need to know. If you don't the lobbyists will.

    It helps if you dont drink the Kool-Aid yourself ! Reality Check -- 04/11/09

    Sorry to say but number 1 on your checklist is wrong and highlights your a fool who has fallen for Conroy's feeble attempt to avoid the question of viability of the NBN.

    How many subscibers will the NBN have is not weakened by the assertion its a wholesale network theirfore it will only ever be a maximum of a couple of hundred (the number of isp's or asp that crop up).

    The fact is how many subscribers (households, premises, etc) will it have (via who gives a **** which and how many wholesalers ) is more relevant than ever.

    And Henry Ergas' analysis of the millions of subscribers needed to support this project is valid. And the media needs to get Conroy to seriously show how he refute's this analysis and not allow him to get away with let alone perpetuate this utterly stupid answer.

    cluesless or ignorant? Anonymous -- 04/11/09

    Maybe they are just simply more ignorant towards things that themselves or their advisors have not brought up, such is the back n forth of politics.

    You dare not agree to anything the other party suggests.

    Same goes for the whole internet filter saga (read: waste of cash), you have experts AND industry leading professionals currently operating, stating something, and the ignorant response is 'well, we will find out when we do our own tests' (read: we will waste some money trying to prove us right, before admitting u know what you are talking about).

    Such is life as a politician. I dont know how many people are going to be willing to play the charade in 20-30 years however. Might be time for reform.

    Ignorance can be cured Stilgherrian -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390652)

    Yes, "clueless" is perhaps provocative, so perhaps I should differentiate between "stupid" and "ignorant". Ignorance is just a lack of knowledge, and can be cured with education. Or self-education. Stupidity is, well, the word stands for itself — but mostly politicians are not stupid as such or they wouldn't hold down their jobs.

    Pollies: Watch Barack O and start catching up Anonymous -- 04/11/09

    Stil, you have really hit a raw nerve here.
    The sheer ignorance of politicians in relation to IT is staggering and their bumbling is holding this nation back. Some senior public servants and a few company execs also need a good kick up the backside about this.

    Watching the likes of Coonan, Minchin, Alston and even Conroy is internationally embarassing.

    These hillbillies are holding this nation back.
    Even when thay are given sound advice from IT experts it is arrogantly dismissed because it didn't come from the right party member or faction. A frienfd of mine left the public service because he got sick of clueless arrogant pollies and their flunkies telling him how to run an IT business that they know absolutely nothing about. Worse still, they dont want to know.

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