Windows mobile is a clumsy power hingy pig of an OS, it has a very long way to go to catch up with apple.
I own a HP iPaq which is made by HTC and it is a great device. Windows and Office work well, as does IE, contact list, the whole shebang. After almost two years of power-usage I've had no stability problems with Windows and no hardware problems with the phone itself.
Many recent Apple creations have suffered severe hardware shortcomings and software is useless without reliable hardware. Magnetic power plugs exploding, cracked screens on iPods, batteries overheating, etc.
The iPaq has one slight shortcoming - the bell isn't loud enough. Maybe they've improved that for this new model.
On an unrelated note, I've recently tried out a Telstra Country Phone - big mistake. Before I had the chance to road-test its claimed long distance data and voice capability it shat itself after a mere two months' use.
Doesnt sound like you own an apple device, lord farquar. I have used both, and may others from other manufacturers.
And besides, let the product speak for itself, and I am afriad WM is world renown for being expensive, eating batteries, heavy foot print and abysmal performance unless you throw major hardware at it. I'll stick with my nokia smartphone, I get 10 days standby out of it... I get about 36 hrs at best from a windows 'calamity' mobile, als long as it doesnt lock up on me first.
Sorry pal, doesn't sound like you own a WM device either. I have an imate JASJAM running WM6 and it has been rock solid. No lock up for as long as I can remember. As for battery, it depends on how I use my phone, I suppose. I don't know really as I do a lot of desktop syncing and it also charges the phone over USB. As a result, I never notice if there is any battery problem.
I own an Apple iMac. I do believe Apple made the machine?
As for my iPaq, I am still using the original battery and I get lots of standby time. Either your appraisal of Windows Mobile is a little inaccurate or you don't look after your belongings.
the whole point is the touch flo - I've had win mob 5, 6 and played with mac-lock-in stuff... htc kicks both... yes, runs on windows mobile, but the similarity ends there, they've built a new interface on top. I have an HTC Touch - came out *before* iBrick and i think the only thing(s) missing from my life are 3G and GPS... Diamond does both - everyone who sees the "old" touch interface is blown away... this new one looks compelling. Lets face it, the iBrick isn't *actually* innovative... is expensive and ... well... is associated with $teve Job$
I had an imate smart phone. What an unreliable piece of crud it was. Had to reboot every now and then not just because WM ate all the memory and slowed down, but it would also forget about the network and not ring!
Never, ever again.
I have been exposed to support operations with WM devices, and I am afraid they are the bottom of the pile when it comes to reliability, battery life...
The iphone regardless of how you look at it stands out from the rest, by miles. That is innovation.
Still, i'll stick with Nokia, they know how to make phones and make mobile operating systems. $MS knows how to... um... not sure if they are good at anything anymore..?
Apple SUX
Steve Jobs SUX
Apple SUX
umm, no.
more like iphone KILLER!!
Nice phone but does anyone know if it handle Javascript, flash etc on sites like the N810?
Built in customized Opera mobile browser. Youtube client the same as iphone, so flash YES. Accelerometer YES.
I do not own an iphone so I'm not going to be a smart a** here( have ipod touch). but the main feature differences are,
WM6.1 VS MAC: WM is more expandable and popular to be mistreated despite minor bugs.
touch keyboard a little difficult to handle than apple's.
diamond senses which side up the phone is and changes itself to silent mode.
3.2 MP with mechanical autofocus.
Smaller screen but higher resolution.
I'm not sure if iphone has HSDPA.
cutting edge GPS hardware.
with Diamond is also easier to manage file transfers, with WM device center, than with itunes.
WM can be rigged with third party media players to play more video formats than OS X. You don't need to encode those 700mb divx's.
BUT the diamond lacks the standard earphone jack, so you probably can't use your favorites.
There is a sensor where the stylus goes, so when you pull it out it turns the display on and goes to the notepad.
shorter battery life is to be expected.
Separate Graphic processing unit.
Proximity sensing buttons, very useful when taking pictures.
In conclusion I'd already purchased the diamond.
Just to confirm, HTC Touch Diamond is 7.2Mbps HSDPA.
the htc diamond has only internal memory og 4 gb and no expandable sd card... al though its quite the "IT" phone to beat apple...
The HTC Touch Diamond Pro is the perfect phone in my opinion. Totally expandable, upgradable and all the bells'n'whistles anyone would want.
As the HTC Touch Diamond is a consumer only product thus it comes with 4GB while the HTC Touch Diamond Pro has a microSD slot that allows you to use up to 32GB memory cards to store your music/video/photos,etc on it.
The "Pro" version has a real slide out keyboard.
The HTC Touch Diamond (and Pro) also has built-in GPS (like their previous phones over the last few years) and it supports HSUPA (8+mbps) internet access... although there is no network in Australia at present that does this yet.
Thanks for the info on the pro, that sounds like a good option, as the lack of expandable memory had played on my mind.
As far as HSUPA goes, maybe you missed the big hype train for Telstra NextG which most certainly does use HSDPA as well as HSUPA with compatible devices (alot of the early ones didn't support HSUPA) so another point to the bad guys.
Oh dear. Lame, unreliable Win mobile? battery life? Far from perfect.
Also, it wont draw a crowd like an apple product - because there is no way that anything Microsoft will draw heart strings.
I just got this device - how does it sync with Outlook calendar and contacts? I hooked it up to my laptop and wasn't able to install it.
oh my god....you sound like a bunch of girls arguing over who has the best lover... funny
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The Diamond went back after at first falling in love with it. I loved the size, the interface and all the funky apps like weather report and games.
My problem came after using like a 'normal' person: When on a call the, the screen cuts out (to save juice I guess), which annoying when your calling an automated service. You have to take phone from ear, click the on/off button, call up the keypad then select the key you want. Repeat half a dozen times depending on length of call. Next was the fact it's nigh on impossible to forward an SMS easily (much more screen prodding) and lastly, getting music on it. The alarm was a pain to switch off in the morning (much more screen prodding) and the headphones are terrible (no adapter for standard 3.5mm jack). Now I will say at this point i'm Mac based and should really have opted for an iPhone but the HTC was so much smaller, but syncing with a friends PC nearly lost me the will to live. After starting the very slow process of actually getting music on it, it proceeded to upload every music, video and photo file on my friends computer as it tried to sync everything (without asking). I then tried to remove everything from the phone, and although I removed all the mp3's, it kept all the tags and playlists which were impossible to remove from the TouchFlow interface.
I know i'm not PC versed and someone with some technical ability with PC's could have sorted this, but life's too short to have this sort of drama. So a big sorry to Apple, i've learned my lesson and will be down for an iPhone in the morning.
alarm is one touch to turn off ONE!, lol, and not sure how you managed to sync all the music but is pretty simple to remove playlists. And when you plug it in to sync it asks you whether you want to activesync or file transfer which is heaps faster if you simply want to move tunes on or off. The 90 seconds it takes me to sync all outlook is nothing compared to syncing a symbian based phone.
I do agree with forwarding of sms, seems a bit more hassle then it needs to be. As for headphones, i much prefer one small standard mini usb port over having to have multiple.
Im not a huge fan of windows products but chose the TD over an iphone for these reasons:
1) Bluetooth! OMG iphone doesnt support any file transfers. Just headset and carkit.
2) No MMS on iphone
3) full A-GPS on TD compared to google maps on iphone
4) Full speed capabilities of data (3.5G) vs the now seemingly limited 3G only of iphone.
and although not a deciding factor the iphone doesnt do video calling.
Are you insane?
The iPhone has a 3.5" screen which is much better than the "large" 2.8" screen on this steaming pile.
Are you dumb...?
The iPhone has a bigger screen but half the resolution of the Diamond... that means worse... takes up 50% more space to display 50% less information...
At least you can cuddle up to your iPhone at night with all your teddies...
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The user interface is very appealing. Combined with the full functionalities of WM 6.1, Best of both worlds. I like it very much. This or the HTC Rapheal could well be my next phone.