Trujillo was a costly mistake for Telstra

commentary I think we can now conclude that, on balance, Telstra went backwards during the Trujillo era, and that the board's decision in June 2005 to sack Ziggy Switkowski and install a team of expensive Americans to run the company was a mistake.

Trujillo was a smart, almost blinding salesman, but to my mind — and to many others — he was too arrogant and condescending.

Sol Trujillo used to say that he had to perform a rescue job, but now it is David Thodey who has to rescue Telstra from him. Trujillo was a smart, almost blinding salesman, but to my mind — and to many others — he was too arrogant and condescending.

There is one very fine positive that he will leave behind as he and his team all return to their homes: the Next G mobile network. It was a brilliant decision, executed well, and has modernised that part of the company superbly.

But the negatives far outweigh that single positive. In particular, the culture of Australia's most important company has deteriorated in two important ways: customer service is appalling and relations with all arms of government have been smashed.

The first of those is the worst. At first there was a wary acceptance of Telstra's shockingly unfriendly attitude towards its wholesale customers because it was understood that they are also retail competitors. It was all part of Telstra's forceful protection of shareholder value, we were told.

We used to blame the system that had allowed Telstra to become both wholesale network supplier and retail provider. We might disagree with its approach, and think that surely a company had to look after all of its customers and not pursue one lot through courts, but at least there was a focused retail strategy going on (we were told).

Now we can see that the retail strategy, if there really was one, has been a failure. Sol Trujillo said he was introducing a culture of customer focus and improvement in retail service, but he didn't do it.

Telstra is now one of the least customer-friendly businesses in the country. It is virtually impossible to deal with: even the employees hate having to ring the company to get something done. Making a minor change to one's phone service can be a nightmare.

This is the greatest failure of Telstra's leadership. Relations with the government and the ACCC can be repaired virtually overnight — Minister Stephen Conroy and ACCC chairman Graeme Samuel are intelligent and flexible people who will take the new leadership at face value, although Thodey and Catherine Livingstone start on the back foot.

But the damage to its reputation with customers will take years to repair and require immense effort and cost.

And this, in my view, is the reason Telstra should be split up: not because of some theoretical regulatory preference, but because it has shown itself incapable of operating effectively as an integrated telco, looking after both sets of customers.

David Thodey will now plead: "Give us another chance". The answer should be that it's too late — no more chances.

Business Spectator

This article by Business Spectator's Alan Kohler is reproduced on ZDNet.com.au courtesy of a reciprocal publishing agreement.

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Talkback 31 comments

    ROI Lemmingsmate -- 25/05/09

    and the $2B paid to Accenture is an absolute disgrace. What have they delivered?, absolutely nothing. Almost enough for a Royal enquiry.

    Confirmed Thomas -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320137939)

    If shareholders knew how much money was flushed down the toilet with Accenture training they would probably want criminal charges laid.

    I saw tens of thousands spent on 10 page documents for system training.

    The content wasn't anything new, but the packageing was pretty - but I bet it must look great in the management meetings.

    Peter T. Peter T. -- 25/05/09

    Trujillo, one part of the "Tres Tontos", is trumpeting about how he changed Australia. That's true. He changed Australia from a country of people that disliked Telstra to one that despises it. Not much an achievement if you ask me.

    Drivin off Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    I know telstras poor customer service and constant billing blunders have forced me to move my mobile to another provider, cancel my home telephone line and telstra internet, and move to Naked ADSL2+ and use VOIP for my calls.

    I Havent had to deal with telstra for a few months now, my bills are correct and all telstra gets are the few cents my ISP pay to telstra wholesale.

    best result, better customer service could have changed this, but im now glad a made the change.

    Which Naked DSL service provider did you so like? Graeme Harrison (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu) -- 28/05/09 (in reply to #320137953)

    A) Which Naked DSL service provider did you so like for customer service?
    B) Did you migrate your existing telephone number to their VOIP service?
    C) Are you aware that Telstra is still negatively-servicing you, by refusing to allow such VOIP numbers to appear in the national telephone directory (white pages)?

    Numbers in White Pages Anonymous -- 29/05/09 (in reply to #320139111)

    In regards to c) I actually take that as a good thing. Unless it has changed very recently, you are charged for the privilege of NOT having your number in white pages when you have a run-of-the-mill landline. I don't want my number in the phone book but I'm not about to pay an additional monthly fee to do it - better to just use a mobile and naked DSL and be negatively serviced (which actually turns out in this case to be positively serviced)

    Strategy is right; execution too narrow Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    Agree with you Alan, but Sol and his team had the strength and doctrine mostly right on the strategy. Telstra's network and systems transformation was long overdue. Unfortunately they entirely missed the external perspective i.e. how to deliver value to customers. Oddly David Thodey's former BU also was a victim of that missing outcome e.g. enterprise customers still on the old billing system for years to come.

    never follow an American Model Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    Watch the yanks on how not to do things. detach the retail arm now and bring back at good Telco you can deal with and hopefully re-learns its core business, providing communications for Australians.

    told ya so.. Simon -- 25/05/09

    There's plenty of people out there who were ignored when they sounded the Trujillo alarm, maybe people will listen now? ..doubt it!

    Just proves how naive and amaturish Australian Business really is, that they can allow fast talking con-men to so easily take them for a ride!

    Agree with what you say except that wasn't the 3G network one of Ziggy's babies that Trujillo claimed credit for?

    spot on Scott -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320137962)

    Sol only did what he was famous for. Many raised questions about his initial appointment for this reason. Those queries were treated the same as any question about Liberal party decisions... ignored.

    Kohler must be paid by SINGTEL! Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    Afetr reading Kohler's crap read this for a more balanced "journalism"

    http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/blogs/the-telstra-phile/optus-needs-a-mirror-to-diagnose-market-failure

    Kohler paid by singapore... Simon (a different one) -- 25/05/09 (in reply to #320137964)

    And you by Telstra, but at least Kohler is impartial.

    You may as well have just provided a link to Sydney's last 20 posts right here, as supply this rubbish.

    lee Anonymous -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320137983)

    Exactly! Heaven forbid a telstra employee writes anything negative about what is happening on the floors in the call centres on that NWAT site, they get dragged off the phone and bullied by the centre manager.

    Sol ruined that company. And YES, even employees hate ringing up to get stuff fixed - they may get some incompetant fool in manilla. Thank Sol for the outsourcing and causing thousands of people to lose their jobs

    Not worst customer service! Patanjali -- 25/05/09

    I know Telstra has had a lot of complaints, but after having transferred from 3, we are much relieved.

    The problem with 3 was that a change to the XSeries plans resulted in months of service and billing stuff ups, requiring several long calls to support to try and fix up (we left with one of our pphone still being charged to two Xseries plans, one of which had NEVER been requested).

    Unfortunately, support is totally outsourced to people who know nothing about the equipment or services, and are loaded to the hilt with scripts that are rigourously, but ever so politely, adhered to, even if it is the umpteenth time being rung about, which they know of course. We have had to assert ourselves several times to cut through the tediousness of repeating already performed steps. Never at any time do did we get to people familiar with the phones or to people with technical knowledge.

    In contrast, Telstra support people seem to actually have phones (that is, they talk to you like phone users) and first level WILL pass you onto real tech support, who have all been VERY patient and diligent.

    Of course, there are cultural differences between the staff of the two, but I feel the main issue was that 3's support staff lack the 'on the ground' knowledge and hence rely upon following scripts to get them through. It is a warning to companies that are considering outsourcing that it is not enough to bow to their requests for explicit scripts. There must be provision for training the staff in the equipment and keeping that knowledge updated. The staff need to feel comfortable knowing when to escalate problems. I'm not sure whether 3 even has second level support though. Also, the system sofware they use must also do the actions they initiate.

    The splitting of Telstra is another thing and could have happened a long time ago, if the Government of years past had not been so focussed on trying to keep its value inflated prior to the several share sales.

    It IS a very possible conflict of interest to be providing both the infrastructure and retail services on top of it. It can ONLY be done if the management and fee setting of the wholesale division is very transparent separated from the retail divisions, which MUST have NO priviedged access or pricing compared to that of their competitors.

    Yes and no Anonymous -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320137977)

    not all areas have been outsourced - bigpond tech support, prepaid mobile and even the in house payroll (if not soon then it is on its way) have been outsourced to a company in melbourme. This company in turn outsourced it to manilla. Oh and by the way, Sol is a major investor in the outsourcing company!

    re Kohler's crap! Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    like I said for more balnced "journalism refer to-

    http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/blogs/the-telstra-phile/optus-needs-a-mirror-to-diagnose-market-failure

    very funny balanced Anonymous -- 25/05/09 (in reply to #320137987)

    very funny you are quite the comedian, balanced, lol. obviously a p1ss take. no ones stupid enough to actually believe that crap.

    Telstra "accidentally" cancelled many of our clients contracts Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    When I worked in IT, Telstra screwed up royally with most our customers, by closing accounts accidentally, or claiming they never paid (when they had).

    Take it from somebody who used to help install people's NextG connections and such, Telstra accounts are hopeless. They constantly close them accidentally, or sometimes claim they weren't paid.

    NEVER use telstra.

    Could have told you years ago that Trujillo would screw things up Anonymous -- 25/05/09

    He took Orange, one of the most innovative and customer-centric brands in the world and turned it into an also-ran - all the time thinking he was doing a great job. What made you think he would try anything different at Telstra?

    What pi$$es me off the most is that this man should be rewarded with millions for his incompetence.

    @could have told you Anonymous -- 25/05/09 (in reply to #320138025)

    cause...that's the liberal way.

    @Labore Stooge Anonymous -- 31/05/09 (in reply to #320138031)

    And what is the ACTU way? Go back to the seventies and eighties....idiot.

    liberal stooge has returned Anonymous -- 31/05/09 (in reply to #320140157)

    hello liberal stooge/goon

    maybe the actu way is to not give one man $30m, sol lover.

    sol didn't help your shares so wake up, fool.

    So it's too late is it?? M0TT -- 25/05/09

    Well Alan - based on your statement that "its too late for Telstra" - we should all sell our shares, the company should be wound up, the assets dispersed, the staff sacked.

    And who would buy those assets?
    And who would run them?

    You idiot.

    You idiot ? Rob Demon -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320138032)

    no, he says split the company. its run by whats there. its owned by the shareholders (shares in both). MOTT, im afraid you might be the idiot here.

    Too late all right M0TT Anonymous -- 26/05/09 (in reply to #320138032)

    M0TT, you sort of got it right. It is too late.

    Too late because, you would have already sold your shares, if you were nearly as smart as you seem to think you are.

    But since you haven't, Mr. Kohler and you have much in common, eh!

    Telstra Anonymous -- 26/05/09

    I don't think it matters who Telstra has running the company from Ziggy, to Trujulla, it will be almost impossible to make Telstra into an efficient well run company.

    It is time for the separation Graeme Harrison (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu) -- 28/05/09

    Yes, let's give every Telstra shareholder a share in 'backbone co' and keep a share in Telstra (the retailer). The backbone does not need the goodwill of the Telstra brand (if any)... but the equivalent of AT&T Long Lines needs to be separated from the retail. Telstra has shown over a decade a complete inability to understand wholesale competition. Telstra has disputed the umpire's call every time, and sought to destroy competitors, only finally conceding defeat when taken to court.
    Alan is right - the time has come... And it will be far cheaper to do separation, than for the taxpayer to fund a complete replication of such infrastructure.

    The Board Anonymous -- 29/05/09

    Lots of comments about Sol, but what about the board that appointed him - they survive but obviously they should carry the can. Importing CEO's hasn't got a good track record - remember Paul Anthony at AGL - he took millions from them for only 18 months and stuffed the company and their IT systems in particular. The board that appointed him survives too.

    Yes and yes again Anonymous -- 29/05/09 (in reply to #320139512)

    The two previous posts are spot on.

    Graeme is right that the monopoly network should be separated from the csp, and new shares in both companies issued to existing shareholders (the combined value should be more than the present lousy three dollars anyway).

    And there should be a searching independent investigation into the role of McGauchie and the other board members who voted to appoint the Yankee Doodles.

    Another big noise CE from the land of the free was George Trumball who nearly ran AMP into the ground before the brilliant Andrew Mohl stepped in to rescue it.

    @yes Anonymous -- 29/05/09 (in reply to #320139556)

    why should the combined value be more than the current share price? as far as i'm concerned sydney and the rest can learn to live with their stupid decision to invest in telstra.

    interesting thought though. as the telstra fanboys all soundly reject separation, it would be interestenig if they were offered $5 or $2.50 per separated company.

    the greedy ***stards would probably change tune quick smart.

    Under the Carpet Anonymous -- 30/05/09

    I wonder if Telstra will sweep the current 'status' of their so called transformation projects under the carpet and simply write off the mistakes - it is a valid question to ask what value have IBM and Accenture have added to Telstra's business operation.

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