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Does Conroy have the fibre?

A remarkable four-car pile-up is about to happen with the National Broadband Network; goodness knows what will emerge from the wreckage. Maybe there'll be no survivors at all.

It is an entirely different world now compared with 2007 when Rudd and Conroy announced their $4.7 billion broadband promise.

The four vehicles barrelling down the road are: Minister Stephen Conroy's impending decision on the three NBN bids, the Senate Select Committee inquiry now underway, Telstra's search for a new CEO, and the worsening global financial crisis.

It is an entirely different world now compared with 2007 when Rudd and Conroy announced their $4.7 billion broadband promise.

The world has changed even more since the bids for it went in last November. And it has changed again since the expert panel submitted their report on the bids to Conroy six weeks ago. In fact, it has even changed again since the Senate committee started hearings a few days ago.

Since the expert panel report was handed to Conroy in January and the minister began what has turned into six weeks of pondering, the global stock market has fallen more than 20 per cent, credit markets have become even tighter and the government's fiscal position has collapsed — both deliberately and accidentally.

The expert panel report went to Conroy on 22 January. On 3 February, Kevin Rudd announced a $42 billion fiscal package, as a result of which, along with the global recession, the government is now projecting deficits totalling $118 billion between now and 2012.

When the NBN bids were put in last November, the official budget forecast was sitting at surpluses over the estimates period totalling $18 billion. When the election promise was originally made, the government was going to be rolling in money forever.

But despite the collapse in its fiscal position, the government should not compromise on trying to achieve a competitive outcome for broadband, even if that means putting in more than $4.7 billion of government money to ensure that an alternative to Telstra gets up.

Alternatively, Conroy could compromise on the amount of fibre in the network. Wireless technology has developed since the NBN tenders were called, and could be used to bring down the cost (although as discussed below, there are political complications with that).

This is one of those things that must be got right no matter what the economic cycle is doing — the results will be with us through the next boom and bust.

This is one of those things that must be got right no matter what the economic cycle is doing — the results will be with us through the next boom and bust.

In any case, the investment by the government of $4.7 billion, or perhaps more, in the NBN could be seen as part of a third phase of fiscal stimulus, based more around infrastructure spending than direct payments to middle Australia.

If you're in for $118 billion debt over four years, another $4.7 billion won't make much difference. The pointier question now is whether any of the bidders will be able to finance the rest, especially those that have no money of their own — that is, Acacia and Axia.

And while Optus is owned by the powerful Singapore Telecom and has promised $2 billion of equity for the project, the Singaporean economy is collapsing as fast as any, so there must be a question mark over that $2 billion.

None of them has withdrawn their bid or, as far as we know, amended it in any way. We don't know whether all, or even any, of them are fully compliant with the rules (FttN to 98 per cent of Australia), or whether they put an uncomfortable amount of wireless into the plan to cut costs.

In fact, maybe the expert panel has ruled them all out seeing they were non-compliant because of too much wireless.

That would be uncomfortable for Conroy because more wireless would make the NBN look like the Howard government's Broadband Connect program, in which $958 million was given to a consortium of Optus and Futuris subsidiary, Elders Telecommunications.

Stephen Conroy simply cancelled that deal last April, saying that it wasn't going to cover the required 90 per cent of Australia and had too much wireless in it. Optus and Futuris immediately protested that it would, and that cancellation was unfair and illegal, but they have refrained from suing the government just in case Optus wins the NBN (which is pretty tough on Futuris, by the way).

Anyway, ending up with a $4.7 billion version of Helen Coonan's $958 million project would be pretty embarrassing for Conroy, so we can assume that avoiding it is his number one priority.

But the reason the Optus/Elders plan had lots of wireless, rather than fibre, is that it's cost effective. Conroy's promise was to build the Rolls Royce of broadband networks — fibre all the way, no wireless for him.

Telstra is the only organisation with the cash flow to internally fund a broadband roll-out, and the only one that could do it without litigation

But if the world has changed since the bids went in last November, and even since the expert panel report went to the minister in January, how much has it changed since the wannabe minister and his campaigning Opposition Leader, Kevin Rudd, made that promise in 2007?

The other thing that has changed is Telstra's management: CEO Sol Trujillo, who led the decision not to put in a bid for the NBN, is now in his lame duck period before returning the US in June, and a search is underway for a replacement.

Telstra is the only organisation with the cash flow to internally fund a broadband roll-out, and the only one that could do it without litigation (Telstra will undoubtedly sue over the others' requests to switch over all its last-mile copper to the new fibre, as well as their demand that Telstra be banned from building a second fibre network to compete, as it did with cable).

The trouble is that under Trujillo, Telstra's regulatory and ROI (return on investment) demands were too great, which would mean the price of access would be too high. Any of the three actual bids would result in lower access prices than Telstra and would establish a new competitive environment for telecommunications in Australia.

Maybe his successor will have a different view, and be able to persuade the Telstra board. Maybe he or she will have an entirely different vision for Telstra. Maybe there will be no NBN at all because no one can afford it now and ADSL2+ is working fine.

Or maybe the government will just decide to build the whole thing as a PPP (public private partnership) as part of its nation building agenda.

Now there's an idea.

Business Spectator

This article by Business Spectator's Alan Kohler is reproduced on ZDNet.com.au courtesy of a reciprocal publishing agreement.

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Talkback 23 comments

    The wind of change Mel Sommersberg -- 09/03/09

    The world has definitely changed because countries that want cutting-edge telecommunications networks are not building FTTN networks, they are building FTTH networks. The sooner that Labor wales up to this fact the better off we will all be.

    Change indeed Jason -- 09/03/09 (in reply to #320125171)

    Since you have shown an unwillingness to debate me Mel, by not replying to 5 of my last 6 mails, I will accept your that you have conceded and simply move on.

    And here I was thinking you weren't man enough to cede.

    Shipwreck Ahoy. Sydney Lawrence -- 09/03/09 (in reply to #320125179)

    Let who ever wants to build whatever supply the finance and build.

    BUT do not place any artificial competition destroying restrictions on Telstra.

    Down to the scuppers arh hah me hearties. Mel Sommersberg -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125200)

    Sydney, can you please let me know if you still think that Telstra should receive a $4.7bn subsidy if they were to build the network? I realise this is hypothetical however at the moment my understanding is that the subsidy should be withheld by the Commonwealth only if Telstra doesn't get to do the job.

    Indeed Jason Mel Sommersberg -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125179)

    I'm not conceding anything Jason. Each time we've come in contact with each other I have won by default on the grounds that I was the only one relevant to the topic. Swearing and hurling personal abuse can hardly rank you as a winner.

    That said, people's participation here should not come down to winners and losers. I debate to put my point of view, not to collect trophies.

    Indeed Brad, I mean Mel, I mean Lord Watchdog Jason -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125285)

    Ah I see you 'aren't"man enough after all, seems I was right in the first place.

    Funny how it's ok for the "Lord" to go off topic, but as soon as someone else does, you say, I will not correspond further and claim some strange moron, sorry moral victory. Obviously your get out of gaol free card mk2. Typical Master/servant approach, just like your hero.

    You continue to dodge the fact that you hate Trujillo and Telstra while your Liberal heroes love them, hmmm? Also, you simply haven't won any trophies, that's why you don't collect them.

    But for the third time now, if you want me to explain where and how I have so obviously out debated you, and why I have trophies and you do not, just ask!

    Still off-topic Mel Sommersberg -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125296)

    I see you still haven't mustered the knack of staying relevant to the topic Jason. Your trophies must be those little plastic ones that come in showbags from the Royal Easter Show.

    Make your posts relevant and then I will be happy to tell you where you've gone wrong.

    My old mate Mel$tra Jason -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125401)

    Mel, Lord Watchdog, Anonymous, Steve, Brad or whoever you are at the moment (Mel I believe), fancy telling me to stay on topic and then you ramble on about plastic trophies, RES and more of your idiocy, totally off topic! Hmmm?

    Mel I did offer to go away remember? All you had to do was ignore me one more time and I'd have taken that as you ceding and would have left you alone (because unlike you, 'my word' actually has merit). But you weren't man enough to do so, so...

    But here is another classic example of YOUR blatant hypocrisy, hypocrite, with YOU going way off topic.

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/100Mbps-upgrade-for-Telstra-HFC-cable/0,130061791,339295355,00.htm#320125317

    The topic being the 100Mbps upgrade and you have a go at the shareholders, rofl.

    Apparently it is ok for YOU the Lord to go off topic, but as soon as anyone else does it in reply to YOU, YOU sob like a two year old girl.

    More likely since you lost your get out of gaol free card by me supplying my name, you have dreamt up another for when the going inevitably gets too hot and you need an escape route! I'm not corresponding anymore because you're off topic, how lovely and most convenient lamo!

    I suppose you will claim that you did mention Telstra, so you were theoretically on topic. So in future I will do like wise by referring to you as a Mel$tra and I will always be just as on topic as you, all of the time, easy.

    I await your debating pointers with plenty of giggles and then await even more my right of reply. Which you have been avoiding since I offered to explain how I have out debated you.

    So please off you go, IF YOU DARE? Ladies first!

    Indeed Jason Anonymous -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125285)

    "Swearing and hurling personal abuse can hardly rank you as a winner."

    How right you are there, as he never ever sticks to the topic. But at the end of the day, nobody really takes any notice of the fool anyway, so it is probably best to simply ignore him.

    Indeed Anonymous -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125319)

    You keep saying best ignore him, so why can't you?

    Jason, You ****! Rex Alfie Lee -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125320)

    Your wonderful Telstra 100MB/s upgrade has many commenters onboard as to its failing already. It doesn't live up to the hype except where there's only one user, a Telstra techie checking the speed by himself. That hardly defends Telstra's position. Many others are still screaming about a lack of usability with Next-G, the most wonderful wireless system in the whole world which has also been disputed by various users in other countries.

    I'll be glad to see the arse-end of Trujillo as well. He is just basically going to walk out of here with 13+ million dollars that could have been better used on paying Australians to do their job. Not to mention the other 2 Trujillo best-buds who've just left. Good riddance to them all.

    Australia will just be poorer financially for them leaving but basically better off. They breed a kind of business that is nasty & reduces the service provision in only the way Sol has done so many times before. Telstra is number 3 on his list of decimated telecommunications companies. I don't believe he even has the shareholders in mind. That of course includes you. I'm sure you holdings have dropped while he's been your CEO.

    @Jason, You ****! Jason -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125544)

    Rex, unless I've missed something, perhaps a little sarcasm in the translation, I fail to see any connection between your subject and your comment?

    @Jason, You ****! Anonymous -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125549)

    There are a lot of things you miss, with your off topic comments ! Seems the only thing you are really interested in is sh.t stirring.

    @@Jason, You ****! Jason -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125553)

    Thanks "anonymous" (lol), right on cue just before work at 9 everyday, little sheep.

    Now where's Rex.

    Shaken not stirred - anonymous (@@Jason) Jason -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125553)

    PS. anonymous,

    For the record stupid, as you are too thick to have noticed, I only sh.t stir, as you put it, 2 morons, no one else. And you are one of these morons along with Mel$tra Sommersberg, lol!

    But going by your endless cretinist comments, you are now obviously way beyond just stirred. As Bond says, you are " shaken not stirred".

    Anyone else I will debate rationally with (unless they are disrespectful, of course), as witnessed above, where I have simply and nicely asked Rex to clarify what appears to be an incorrect assumption on his behalf.

    That's what these forums used to be like before morons like you anonymous, started calling those who disagreed with you f..kwits, which has of course enticed the vigilante element (me) to come here and deal it right back to you and you can't handle it, rofl.

    I'm sure Rex, who is obviously passionate about telecommunications, will address any clarifiaction rationally, without being disrespectful, in reply to my equally respectful question. But if not, we'll cross that bridge....

    Unlike you who comes here (now anonymously and as OIC and Josef) only to convey childish idiocy, as clearly witnessed AGAIN.

    But please keep 'em coming. Because just when I think, I won't bother with you 2 morons any more, one of you posts a typically ridiculous comment and revitalises me.

    Roflmfao, at the 2 of you.

    Old Toxic System Poisoned with CCC Matt Cameron -- 09/03/09

    I don't know if the people who read this article with actual soul's consider that the article was from Business Spectator. A very PRO Telstra source. Do you own research because its there! I don't understand these advocators (dummy messengers) being in the old system of attempting to undermine the government with division and divide. Why? Every negative writer I take note (Alan Kohler) and I would suggest that they have been given directions to write anti government content. Please advise me otherwise?? Its the Dr. Phil NWAT attitude. The 3 think its OK but they are incorrect. Telstra does not run the country. It will not work anymore. Get back to reality! If you don't I say bring on the Shareholders and get voting on your confidence in the current board. Somethings gotta give...

    See the reality, forget the dream. Sydney Lawrence -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125221)

    Matt Cameron to dream is good but sooner or later you have to wake up and face reality

    If opponents can finance the NBN project and compete with Telstra well and good but don't expect cheaper prices from them.

    With an investment of, pick a big number, the NBN builder will need huge returns to be viable.
    They wll need customers also, a big problem.

    Telstra will expand and improve their NBN and deliver excellent services to their customers at a price that will test their opponnets.

    Telstra Press Release above ^^^ Matt Cameron -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125256)

    How do you know not to expect cheaper prices? Isn't that a goal of the process? "Sydney Lawrence" - Noted. Fact is, you don't know and you are just painting negative inferences. Its the classic techniques the company thrives on. Playing on peoples emotions and using the fear of the unknown. They do it to their staff, shareholders and their customers. "Telstra will expand and improve their NBN and deliver excellent services to their customers at a price that will test their opponnets." - Test their opponents where? Who is known in the public domain to have the highest costs in Broadband? Ummm.. Telstra isn't it? Cut the press releases and take the advice of your own subject line!

    Shock Horror, Agreement with Sydney Rex Alfie Lee -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125292)

    I have to admit it but for the first time in history I tend to agree with Sydney on one thing. It is going to be expensive whoever does it. Telstra's own though, a disagreement coming now (I feel much better for it) will not provide the service they claim to provide. They don't provide what they claim to provide now so why would the future be any different?

    Their service is poor in both personal & provision of data services. They have schemed so many times with so many subterfuges how can this company be trusted, EVER. They have proven themselves to be a monopoliser that procreates its monopoly, the latest being RIM to exclude ADSL2 by the alternatives.

    the 4 car pile up Anonymous -- 10/03/09

    this is no longer a market that wants to invest in a national broadband network
    Telstra need only sit back and wait for the cherry to drop into its lap.
    Too risky without Telstra as they will overbuild and sue for access to their assets.
    There's no profit in it anymore; the only option is a PPP where he govt legislates separation and transfers the new network assets to a third party after a bedding in period.
    Or if the govt doesn't want this, Telstra sit it out and wait for the finance to (not) appear and then flick the switch on either a woreless network or fixed NBN
    Its a full house...

    More like a train wreck Mel Sommersberg -- 10/03/09 (in reply to #320125235)

    I also see the problem with the FTTN's footprint requiring access to Telstra's last mile which is why I still believe that FTTH is a better option.

    1. We get true fast broadband, or at least the infrastructure that best provides it.

    2. Telstra can't b!tch about their dodgey copper lines with Woolies bag junction boxes being butchered by competitors.

    To be honest I don't think it is right allowing companies open slather to disconnect Telstra customers from Telstra's network and connect part of Telstra's network to the new carrier's network. It just doesn't make sense and for lots of reasons. I would however support allowing a competitor to run their cables up Telstra's conduit from the fence line to the customer's home - there is no real harm in that provided that Telstra's cable is left alone and intact.

    We Need the Wireless! Rex Alfie Lee -- 13/03/09

    FTTH to every home in OZ is crazy. This is a true waste of resources & within the last few years wireless speeds have gone through the roof. Is there any reason to believe this will stop very soon bcoz it's hit a ceiling? I don't think so.

    The last km or even one hundred mts should be wireless. Those that require much higher speeds, medium-size business & larger can pay for the fibre to be put in themselves but for the rest of us we don't really need more than a real 10 Mbs/sec download & probably no more than 1 or 2 Mbs/sec upload. This will certainly cater for the vast majority requiring HD movie downloads & VOIP as well as other Internet needs. Individuals who want more than that should pay the cost of attaching to the fibre themselves.

    This is just ridiculous Conroy. Before you make a choice on the NBN, have a decent think about this, rip Telstra in 2 & force it to be part of the solution & not the parasite it has become.

    Here Here ! Anonymous -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125541)

    Can't agree more Alfie, this is the sensible approach definately !
    The government should be running the critical infrastructure of this country, not private enterprise.

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