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Seagate: Take your recession and stuff it By Charles Cooper, CNET News.com January 24, 2008 URL: http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/business/soa/Seagate-Take-your-recession-and-stuff-it/0,139023749,339285364,00.htm
Like a lot of technology CEOs these days, Seagate's Bill Watkins finds himself frequently asked whether the world as we know it is coming to an end. With regular triple-digit losses on the Dow Jones and the occasional US stock meltdown, these are trying times for any chief executive, let alone one in charge of the world's biggest drive business (measured in sales) -- and one subject to endemic quarterly ups and downs. But stock blips and persnickety Wall Street analysts aside, Watkins remains confident about the longer-term direction of technology and business trends. In its second fiscal quarter, which was announced last week, Seagate tripled net income on a 14 percent increase in sales. Seagate did fess up to some management stumbles, but Watkins, who recently sat down with ZDNet.com.au's sister site CNET News.com, says such stumbles are behind them now and the company intends to capitalize on the increasing appetite to consume different forms of digital media. Q: Your quarterly numbers came out, Seagate gets upgraded to a strong buy, and yet the stock still falls. Do you think you got pounded because the forecast was a little on the low end of the Street's estimates or is that just the way things work today?
So maybe people aren't going to restaurants, maybe they don't buy a new home but they're getting on the Internet.
I'm generating over US$700 million in cash, over US$500 million in free cash, no inventories, double-digit growth, and yet I'm trading at less than an 8 (price to earnings) multiple. All I can think of is that there's just real fear out there. But we're in this for the long haul and I think the market always gets back to reality. It will this time, too. How much does what's going on in the stock market and the rest of the economy affect Seagate, as well as the other drive makers?
Well, there's housing. The other thing is, you know, over 70 percent of our product goes international. We're not seeing a lot of slowdown anywhere international, either in Asia or Europe, which are both very strong for us. I think we're going to talk ourselves into a recession (rather) than there's an actual one there. But you talk with IBM or other people in the Valley and they're not seeing world recession. After Seagate's quarter, one of the problem areas the company talked about was what were described as time-to-market issues. Where are you with that? We're paying the consequences, but we've got the 250 (gigabyte version) coming out in the quarter. We've got the 320 coming, and so we're catching up on two programs simultaneously. I feel really good about the progress we're making. Once given the resources, our people have been able to execute. So we feel good.
What are your thoughts about the likely adoption rate curve of 1.8-inch drives in the notebook market?
You were quoted last year saying that you expect to have solid-state drives across the board in '08. Are you sticking by that?
Why hasn't the technology caught on faster?
Do you think solid state provides any extra measure of assurance or reliability for the user? If solid-state demand takes off, does that, at all, impact your hybrid-drive plans?
Are companies like SanDisk going to play more prominent roles in your segment of the business?
Speaking of cost per gigabyte, what should consumers expect to be able to get for their money when they walk into a retail store to buy storage later this year?
You mentioned Vista. What impact has Vista had on your business since Microsoft introduced the product?
You wrote a column for CNET news.com last year about how the flaw with current legislation is that it fails to specify how to encrypt data. Do you still expect a big security breach that would bankrupt a company or threaten the country's national security?
So, lastly, what do you think? Hillary or Barack? Watkins: I don't know. I can't make up my mind. I really can't and I've supported both of them. The problem is they are not all that different. I think there's more diversity in the Republican race than there is in the Democratic race. From a tech perspective, do any of the candidates seem particularly attractive or particularly unconcerned about the issues that most affect your industry? Our biggest issue, or one of the big issues, is the H-1B and this whole immigration thing, about getting green cards to people who will get Ph.D.s from our universities. My frustration with the Republican party is they've been so focused on the immigration issue as relates to the border, with Mexico, that we're hurting ourselves in training these Ph.D.s. I mean, 60 percent of our Ph.D.s last year were foreign-born; we train them and we send them all back home. The problem I have with that is that we're outsourcing our most important talent. If all our research people are now being sent offshore, we're going to have to do that. So I think every (foreign-born) Ph.D. graduate should get a green card. Keep them here, keep those sorts of high-tech jobs here in the U.S. The second step you need is to get government to start putting programs back together like we used to have between universities. Let's get kids back in science and engineering so we will keep these jobs. It's a long-term view of what we have to do.
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