Avoid using IE if possible: AusCERT

Australia's Computer Emergency Response Team (AusCERT) has recommended organisations "consider using a web browser other than Internet Explorer until a patch becomes available" — an option that many large firms cannot seriously consider.

"We needed a patch yesterday"
Graham Ingram, GM AusCERT
(Credit: AusCERT)

The zero-day flaw first reported last Thursday, which Microsoft later admitted affected all versions of Internet Explorer has prompted AusCERT to advise Australian organisations to "consider" using an alternative browser, which could include Opera, Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome or Safari.

"What we've said is quite specific in our advisory — we've said that users should consider using an alternative browser — if that is possible," AusCERT's general manager Graham Ingram told ZDNet.com.au today.

AusCERT was cautious in its advice to use an alternative browser because it was aware many large organisations' desktops were "locked down". That is, configured to only allow approved applications to run, which in many cases means Internet Explorer is the only web browser option.

"There are a lot of companies that lock down [their computer] environment," said Ingram.

However, the reason that AusCERT went ahead with the advice was due to the importance of the web browser in modern desktops.

"There are a number of ways to mitigate to this, but the browser is one of the most fundamental pieces of software on the modern workstation," said Ingram.

"Having an unpatched browser is a massive problem. A zero-day unpatched IE is something that is not trivial and we needed a patch yesterday," Ingram stressed.

Other possible strategies included the drastic measure of turning off all web browsing, or creating a whitelist of websites that administrators considered safe from attacks that use specific exploit. Organisations should also update their antivirus, he said.

"But with the rise of legitimate sites being compromised there's no assurance that even safe sites haven't been compromised," he said.

Microsoft admits it has detected several hundred exploits for this vulnerability, however, the sites taking advantage of the flaw appear to be hosted on Chinese domains.

Microsoft yesterday did not know when a patch would be released. The next Patch Tuesday is scheduled for 13 January.

"IE is so widely spread and has so many platforms within it, developing a patch would be a Herculean task," Ingram added.

Talkback

Internet Exploder hits again

Seriously, when will corporations start caring about their security? The firewalls and proxies can not stop everything from coming through. Many organisations are still stuck with Internet Explorer 6 - a browser that has had nothing but security problems, not even to begin on the hassles it caused web developers.

If organisations would care about their security, they would upgrade users to a decent browser already - whether it be Firefox, Opera, Safari, Chrome, [insert any other non-IE browsers].

DymosDymos December 17th, 2008
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Internet Exploder hits again

Seriously do you work in the IT industry. Do you know how much testing is required to put in a new piece of software throughout a large company. EVERY application must be tested against it. Its not just a case of "hmmm here's a new product, lets use it".
I cant believe how everyone always bags Microsoft about its products. Before bagging them learn how to write code yourself, put an application out there and see how long it takes for someone to find a vulnerability.

Mark AndersonMark Anderson December 17th, 2008
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Internet Exploder.

Some of us out here, already know how to design & build industrial-strength code.

24x7, for years at a time. Public-access systems. And, with zero known bugs at the end of a 7-year period of operation.

But OTOH, we didn't build code that was vulnerable left, right & center to buffer overruns. Didn't build toy C++, using the vastly flawed coding techniques, shown by MS in *EVERY SINGLE F*%#'N MSDN EXAMPLE*.

Now the patch-counts between browsers, are misleading as a basis for comparison. This is because MS perform 'bundling' and conceal a far higher number of vulnerabilities, in every fix they report.

My professional assessment, last performed 3 or 4 months ago, was that virus attacks are almost irrelevant these days: browser attacks & drive-bys are now the major threat vector.

Where currently many of these are nuisance-grade or advertising, with perhaps 3% malicious -- I expect an ongoing & rapid rampup, to 70% malicious or so, within 4 years.

(Keystroke/ password loggers, banking & account attacks, personal data/ corporate secret harvesting, access obtained then passed to humans for further exploitation.)

My assessment is that IE, is & will continue to be far less secure than available alternative browsers.
By virtue of both 1) inferior engineering & quality focus and 2) mass-market target.

IE was engineered to "bring the Web into the desktop". Remember ActiveX, Active Desktop, etc?
These original design "ideas" represent the exact opposite of security consciousness. Right from the start, they got it wrong.

Thomas WThomas W January 5th, 2009
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firefox too have drawbacks!!!

firefox has also got some serious drawback though not related to security. As a developer of web applications, I find that Firefox has some severe limitations as compared to IE. For example, when we try to navigate to another form from a web form, modify data there and try to come back to the original form with the modified data, firefox loses the instance of the form opened. Thereby we cannot automatically come back to the form with the modified data.

Atul GoyalAtul Goyal December 18th, 2008
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Internet Exploder.

Some of us out here, already know how to design & build industrial-strength code.

24x7, for years at a time. Public-access systems. And, with zero known bugs at the end of a 7-year period of operation.

But OTOH, we didn't build code that was vulnerable left, right & center to buffer overruns. Didn't build toy C++, using the vastly flawed coding techniques, shown by MS in *EVERY SINGLE F*%#'N MSDN EXAMPLE*.

Now the patch-counts between browsers, are misleading as a basis for comparison. This is because MS perform 'bundling' and conceal a far higher number of vulnerabilities, in every fix they report.

My professional assessment, last performed 3 or 4 months ago, was that virus attacks are almost irrelevant these days: browser attacks & drive-bys are now the major threat vector.

Where currently many of these are nuisance-grade or advertising, with perhaps 3% malicious -- I expect an ongoing & rapid rampup, to 70% malicious or so, within 4 years.

(Keystroke/ password loggers, banking & account attacks, personal data/ corporate secret harvesting, access obtained then passed to humans for further exploitation.)

My assessment is that IE, is & will continue to be far less secure than available alternative browsers.
By virtue of both 1) inferior engineering & quality focus and 2) mass-market target.

IE was engineered to "bring the Web into the desktop". Remember ActiveX, Active Desktop, etc?
These original design "ideas" represent the exact opposite of security consciousness. Right from the start, they got it wrong.

Thomas WThomas W January 5th, 2009
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Don't turn it off

Don't turn off your Automatic Updates if you insist on using Internet Explorer - once Microsoft rolls out a fix for this exploit, it will be coming through Automatic Updates.

In the meanwhile, why not try another browser, Firefox, Opera and Safari are excellent products.

DymosDymos December 17th, 2008
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validity/incentive of press releases.

been there before:
bit9's claim to fame:
"Now at over 6 billion records, the Bit9 Global Software Registry is growing at a rate of up to 20 million files each day"
******************
Before these rascals surfaced-- Queensland University commenced cyber-crime monitoring,along with Interpol, and the FBI--stated that NONE of these security propositions were technically correct:

ie you pay for a service that protects you from viruses that have not been EVEN created--is too alice in wonderland.

What these sods/ organisations/botcoms/banksand certain universities,as well as the system manufacturers failed to notify is that Microsoft products--which bit9 claim is lockdownable--instead--AS A FUNCTION OF OPERATION-- leave a galaxy of LISTENING PORTS.
This has been FBI alerted since 2001.
AUtomatic UPDATES--is exactly the same regards procedure and vunerability.

ANY FORM that employs Javascript--also allows third-party ACCESS.

The DOTCOM ideal of companies selling fresh air--seems REALLY where we might expect such persons as anonymous to be--rather than the more preferred COURTS OFLAW regards
social fragrance.

mcphersonr_aumcphersonr_au December 17th, 2008
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